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Might as well add regular "shutdown" as an "option" too
I wanted to make this meme for the nth time my Lenovo rebooted (and left at the login screen) when I chose update and shutdown
Windows is so full of stupid little shit that should have been fixed years - if not decades - ago. Sleep mode broken, folder customize options don't apply to subfolders despite offering that choice, the OP. Sigh.
Microsoft should be responsible for when I close my laptop and then it starts a fucking fire in my backpack. that shit should have been fixed YEARS ago.
It's not just me?! I thought my PC was buggered
Idk how it's working for you guys, but I've not once had it actually shut down after clicking update and shut down. It always restarts myb once or twice and finishes at the lock screen, it just doesn't shut down. I always have to manually turn it off after it finishes.
I've found that if I click "update and shutdown" and hold the power button it shuts down, the update process is even quicker this way /S
But for real, I've been doing this for almost a year now I. Will. Not. Wait. I am going home now
Yep my work laptop is win11, this happens every time. I just wait till the end of the day, click update and shut down, let the dog out and then give her breakfast (I work nights) then go back and shut down from lock screen.
Meanwhile on my Linux laptop, "downloading critical system files" SUDO shut down, "whatever you say boss" and 10 seconds later it's off.
Update and Shutdown -> go and make tea -> Linux lock screen -> 😐
Windows really dosn't want to be on my system.
Well, that's a first. The usual way is for Windows to break the Linux install every time it does anything.
Somehow I learned how to install my systems without windows doing that.
I’m guessing you have different drives, instead of using partitions. Windows only breaks bootloaders when it’s sharing a drive.
Nope.
- Install windows on clean disk
- Install Linux with custom partitions
Add 3 new partitions (/boot, /, swap) - Enable os-prober for grub
- Set grub as boot in BIOS
Never had problem with windows nuking the bootloader. It never knows it exists.
Well, it is at least in part how many linux distros configure Grub, it can be set up to boot the last selected OS, which I think should be the default... I changed it on all of my dual boot systems, though I haven't been using Windows all that much lately, so it hasn't been all that big of a deal for me.
I just wish that Windows hadn't changed the default update config to restart no matter which option is selected, since it makes that situation soooo much more annoying.
buttons that don't work? buttons that do nothing? butrons that lie?? (rhetoric)
Every time! Then the next time you boot windows for some reason, it will finish the updates and then fucking shuts down.
Then you should obey its wishes.
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Unpopular opinion: The most-used operating system in the world must automatically apply security updates, eventually even overriding user preference if people never restart.
Right now it’s Windows. If someday it’s Ubuntu, they should do it too. If they don’t, we’d see giant botnets of every computer that people don’t want to update, all compromised by exploits.
To be clear, this doesn’t excuse MS for abusing this update cycle to push shitty products or AI features.
The meme isn’t complaining about auto-updates. The meme is complaining that “Update and Shutdown” doesn’t actually turn off the PC when it’s done updating.
Ohhh, I didn't even realize that was a thing. Makes more sense now. I should probably shut down my PC more often...
for me, a good test of whether i own something or not is to see if your device forces you to update. I'm sure 90% people using computers understand the security implications of not updating and not rebooting, they just have work they need to do now and rebooting the computer would make it go away.
we really need to stop babying users. If they fuck their own system up, it's on them. give them warnings, sure. Give them heads up. but don't take it into your own hands to protect someone who doesn't want protecting.
I think you have far too much faith in the average user. The average user just uses their computer for email, social media, and YouTube. The average user panics when their Google Chrome shortcut disappears from their desktop, because they don’t know how to open it otherwise. The average user doesn’t even know what a botnet is, or why updating would help prevent them.
And the bigger problem is that a compromised device doesn’t only affect the compromised device. It can potentially spread to other devices on a network, steal info from anyone who interacts with the user, or become part of a botnet which is used in attacks elsewhere. Forcing the average user to update is like requiring vaccinations. We do it because it helps protect everyone; not just the one person who was inoculated.
If users cared about security or privacy, even in the slightest, they'd be using Linux. That's the other few percent. Ubuntu Livepatch solves any problem from automatic updates, I think Linux will eventually support this and then automatic updates by default. But on Windows? Not a chance.
You cannot live patch everything and also linux doesn't run everything
I mean, it’s the same situation as vaccine mandates. You’re hoping that it’s a perfect system of karma that reflects upon the user, but it’s not. Someone practices bad security or bad personal health, and it might not necessarily be them that suffers the most. (Botnet victims come in wide varieties)
I think owning your own device is a great ideology and I want to promote it however possible; I just don’t feel comfortable pushing that over general worldwide computer safety.
Then where do you draw the line?
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Has that ever helped with massive Windows botnets?
Oh no, grandma's Windows box she lets your weird cousin use is sending out shady Russian personals hookup spam again! 💀
Switch your (grand)parents to Linux Mint today!
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Just came to leave an image of a cute cartoon penguin, don't mind me.
That's always so annoying, because Windows isn't my default boot entry, so I need to babysit its "totally not a reboot" update.
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ah yes i remember this frustration before i changed operating systems. now i have a whole bunch of new frustrations but this ain't one of them 😎 i use debian btw
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i click shut down, close my laptop, then the next day it turns out it never shut down because my pdf viewer was still open
I don't make it to the next day. I hear the fan running full blast in my bag while it commits seppuku.
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I'm amazed at how after 50 years, over 100,000 top-tier software engineers, and $3,500,000,000,000, Microsoft are still so bad at making operating systems.
It's almost as if Capitalist rhetoric about innovation is bullshit.
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