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[-] AGuyAcrossTheInternet@fedia.io 69 points 2 months ago

And let's not get started about the term "Handy".

Being offered a cheap Handy was very disappointing.

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Of course you realize that English is a Germanic language? Therefore it is you who have strayed from the proper words. 😉

[-] diverging@piefed.social 20 points 2 months ago

German is not the same as Germanic. Both German and English evolved from a common ancestor, which we call Proto-Germanic.

'Who' and 'Where' are '*hwaz' and '*hwar' in Proto-Germanic.

I would say that in this case German strayed more than English.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 6 points 2 months ago
[-] meekah@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Who = hwaz = wer

Where = hwar = Wo

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 18 points 2 months ago

We added a bunch of French. It's not a romance language by any stretch but it's kind of a Francish one. Francish being a Celtic word, because we added a bunch of those too.

[-] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

And lots of straight up Latin, yeah.

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago

I just looked it up, German isn't even the biggest influence. French and Latin are. German is 3rd

OUI OUI BON BON LE PETITE CROISSANT EIFFEL TOWER I AM LE FRENCH NOW MOTHERFUCKER

[-] hakase@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The vast majority of the 100 most common words in English are still inherited Germanic words.

[-] SippyCup@feddit.nl 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well yeah that stands to reason, our grammar structure is still Germanic, which is why they still call it a Germanic language. The 100 most common words are almost entirely basic grammar, like to, be, it, for, etc. Words used to reference other words.

The first non grammar based word, the first actual noun, is Time, which is a French word.

We are speaking French with German sentence structure and referencing everything in Latin.

[-] antbricks@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago

We're speaking German after French aristocrats gave us the names for all the fancy things we couldn't afford when we were all peasants.

[-] FQQD@lemmy.ohaa.xyz 22 points 2 months ago

Don't worry, it's the other way around for Germans learning English.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I had this problem learning Norwegian.

  • "And" is "og"
  • "Or" is "eller"

Everytime I see "og" in a Norwegian sentence, I immediately want to translate as "or." It keeps tripping me up! "Eller" feels like too many letters to be "or," so I keep translating it as "and" instead.

[-] Nikko882@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You would also get the same problem as the op in Norweigan.
Hvor = Where
Hvem = Who
(Hvorfor = Why / Wherefore)
English is the odd one out here, it seems. (Also why I would rather be learning German from Norwegian than English, but oh well.)

[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 2 months ago

W A R U M ?

spoilerD A R U M !

[-] CaptainBlagbird@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[-] morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 months ago

D A S O. ah ne, geht nicht :(

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 months ago

Nur für den Kick, für den Augenblick?

[-] kshade@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Just remember that whomst = wemst and it'll all make sense.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Wem wemst du was? Ich wem dir gleich eine!

[-] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

It's actually really easy to remember when considering the Proto-West Germanic etymology, one comes from *hwār, the othe from *hwaʀ. Just apply regular sound changes to find the modern form!

[-] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 10 points 2 months ago

"Push" sounds exactly the same as the word for "Pull" in Portuguese (Puxe)

[-] pedz@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

Und dann es gibt wann und wenn.

I'm a native French speaker that learned English in school, and we had to get used to words spelt the same but with a different pronunciation and sometimes a slightly different meaning.

Don't worry, you'll probably get used to it.

[-] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Isn't English partially based on German

[-] hakase@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

English shares a common Germanic ancestor with German. German and English are sisters.

[-] janNatan@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Just memorize and then internalize the lyrics to "Wo Bist Du" by Rammstein and then never get confused again!

[-] madjo@piefed.social 1 points 2 months ago

And then you listen to the Frysian song "Wer Bisto" by Dutch Frysian duo Twarres, where "wer" means "where".

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Trust me, pretty much everything about German is easier than English (I'm a native English speaker who learned German). The only difficult thing is learning all the verb cases.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not the genus of nouns? It makes so little sense I couldn't explain it to anyone.

Edit: That's why we argue whether it is der, die or das Nutella. When of course it is obviously die Nutella.

[-] Lumidaub@feddit.org 3 points 2 months ago

Compromise:

"*nuschel* gibs'ma'Nutella?"

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 2 months ago

Rheinischer Universalartikel. Dat Nutella. Oder ens Nutella.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Well yes, that too.. They are petty intertwined.

It's been a long while though - I was fluent by the end of 2003 (except for those things, but I got by), but if let it slip a lot since then

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