They did make themselves clear and I respect them sticking to their principles if nothing else. I just hope it was really worth it to them if the republicans actually pull off a dictatorship like they've been promising. Like good job sticking it to those dems in the one election they might not ever get to rectify it.

And I hope it was worth it to them the people getting caught up in all the bullshit, such as having their lives ruined, being sent to prison for life, and dying, in the next 4 years regardless of whether they stay in power.

Again, at least the genocide they were worried about was averted, right.

I'm in Australia so I don't need to make sure of anything over there, but I wish you all the best.

Not voting for the Dems WAS voting for fascism in 2024.

Harris's stance on Israel.was bad. You know who is much, much worse? The person assholes like you empowered by throwing away your vote. And yo7 do this all the fucking time.

If 1% of the Green Party voters in Florida in 2000 had voted for Gore, Bush would never have been President, and all the bullshit that's resulted from that nightmare wouldn't have happened, and the country wouldn't have shifted to the right.

I would still be in the US if Kamala had won. I'm trans, latina, and in a w4w relationship. But in retrospect, I'm so glad I left

I'm still fucking tired of being treated as a political pawn by so called "leftists" who don't actually give a shit about intersectionality

So much this. So tired of hearing how the Democrats are not perfect. They are a human institution, so of course they are not perfect. Whole lot of people letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. Do I think Democrats can be pushed to do better? Like virtually every other Democratic voter, hell yes, I think so.

Do I think pretending both parties are virtually the same is some truly deep truth or even the least bit helpful? Not even a little bit. But I sure know that lots of people think "both sides" is a great shorthand to showing how insightful they think they are....sigh.

Name one policy plank from Kamala's campaign that was going to make a meaningful impact to climate change. As I recall, she danced around the subject and offered a little drilling, as a treat. The democrats were already softening on trans rights, and, as I recall, the Kamalampaign shied away from saying anything pro-trans and simply yelled about how bad Trump would be instead. That was basically the whole campaign-- they had three moves:

Hey, Kamalampaign, we'd really like to see thing, what's your policy proposals on thing?

1. Uhhh... Well, you see, Trump is going to be much worse for you than we are.

2. Oh, look, it's a celebrity guest appearance! Everyone say hi to Katy Perry!

3. I can't believe that you'd have the nerve to even ask questions at a time like this, unbelievable that you'd even ask about thing when the alternative is Trump!

Which isn't surprising. That's basically how the HRC campaign played it ~~when they won in 2016 against Trump~~, and doubly unsurprising considering that the democrats didn't trust Kamala enough and decided to stick her with Hillary's extremely competent campaign leadership. There's no substance there, no promise or prospect of doing any better, no reason to vote for the candidate, just reasons to vote against the other one. I don't know who the fuck at the DNC got it in their head that that was a winning strategy, because to my knowledge, it is consistently a bad strategy in marketing, politics, business, and basically everything. And, well, they've won 33% of the times they've tried it, but by God, don't let a god awful track record get in the way of the democrats fucking it up again.