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Context was the idea of a government banning certain popular foods

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[-] AmidFuror@fedia.io 93 points 2 months ago

Unregulated anarchy vs nanny state. There's a wide spectrum in between we can argue about, but let's not get too far toward either extreme.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Kinder eggs should NOT be banned, and Americans have an inferior product because of it.

........but also I agree with the banning of Red dye #3.

[-] OceanSoap@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

It's banned in the US because we're sue-crazy. Companies can't rely on the common sense of their customers here. Even if the egg comes with a blinking neon sign that says there's a non edible toy inside, someone would sue (and win!) claiming that it's not enough and the toy shouldn't be there in the first place.

[-] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 2 months ago

I was about to protest, but grog calls for red dye #2, so we're all good.

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[-] remon@ani.social 33 points 2 months ago

This would mean they'd be against food safety regulations, would it not?

It would not.

Having traffic laws isn't the same as banning cars, either.

[-] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 14 points 2 months ago
This would mean they’d be against food safety regulations, would it not?

It would not.

Having traffic laws isn’t the same as banning cars, either.

Of course it is. Part of traffic legislation literally involves banning certain types of vehicles, either in certain areas or on any kind of public road in general.

[-] remon@ani.social 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Exaclty ... certain types in certain areas with a reason. That's regulation. You wouldn't just ban all vehicles. Do I really have to spell this out?

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Most cities do ban many cars, because they harm air quality.

Buying meat supports an industry that also causes immense climate destruction, so it's the same idea

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 30 points 2 months ago

You're talking about two different things.

Context was the idea of a government banning certain popular foods

This would mean they'd be against food safety regulations, would it not?

It's entirely possible to be in favor of food safety regulations and opposed to the government banning foods outright. In fact, I think one could safely presume that those are the positions most commonly held by most people.

[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago
[-] bluGill@fedia.io 12 points 2 months ago

Having ate horse in the past - when it was legal I can assure you that the ban is entirely a perfect example of needless regulation. I never had it , but friends of mine said the best 'buffalo wings' they ever had was from a resteraunt that was shutdown for serving dog - they were catching local pets which is a good regulation, but the lack of legal ability to get dog is needless.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Americans are weird about dogs - a dog farm would be burned to the ground (with the farmers in it) if ever someone tried to set one up here. Any other social issue sure, it'll be american pseudofascist insanity, but man don't mess with the puppies. We care way more about them than other humans.

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[-] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No it isn’t. Not in Canada anyway.

[-] remon@ani.social 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not here. I think the aversion to horse meat is mostly a US thing.

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

It means that they’re not a nuanced thinker.

[-] gerryflap@feddit.nl 25 points 2 months ago

There's a big difference between food safety and not eating meat. One is about companies putting dangerous stuff in food that can potentially harm people, the other is about something which humans have been eating ever since they existed. I understand that there are some arguments to be given about why we shouldn't eat meat, but those are definitely not as widely supported as disallowing the companies to inject "poison" into our food. In my opinion banning meat definitely would go way too far, the cost of banning meat far exceeds the benefits for public wellbeing.

[-] Pnut@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago

I come from a dynasty of educators. I cannot emphasize that enough. At Christmas I had to explain what a molecule was. Amongst them were several teachers and administrative individuals.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

At some point, you need to revisit and refresh your understanding of the world. People can and do forget information they learned 30 or 40 years ago if they're not making use of it on at least a semi-regular basis.

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 2 months ago

Bro, a molecule! I do Uber so I'm definitely not using chemistry on a day to day basis. But a fucking molecule‽ Come on man...

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[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 13 points 2 months ago

Most people who say that do so for dogmatic reasons, not because they arrived at this conclusion after careful analysis. It's the political point of small government.

These are the same people who will probably be first in line shouting for government intervention when their drinking water is full of chemical waste.

You can try to reason with folks like that but you probably won't change their mind. Just try not to shout at them.

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[-] AceSLive@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I'd like the government to suggest things, and point to the science on things, but to leave the informed choice ultimately up to me.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago

I want them to deny bad actors the ability to sell dangerous foods on the open market.

Informed choice should be between safe products.

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[-] smol_beans@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

Do you have a degree in chemistry? How do you know which 7 syllable words on the side of the box are dangerous and which ones aren't?

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

In an unregulated market, who is there to say that the ingredients even need to be listed on the box?

Every purchase can be like its own little surprise!

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[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Should the government simply suggest companies accurately label the contents of food products?

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 2 months ago

Aaaand now the town's water supply has murcury in it, thanks.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Leaving critical thinking up to the masses??? Oh......oh no.

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[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes. People who oppose science-backed food regulations are dumb or selfish or both

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 2 months ago

I don't think they thought about it very much. It's like that spongebob meme where patrick has the wallet. Or the Friends one that I don't know the name of the template. You could go point by point building up a case for why there should be government regulations, but as soon as you say like "regulation" they go "Nope bad"

Though some people really do believe they as a rugged individual will be able to research and test all of their food without an FDA or whatever. If they buy bread that has sawdust in it, they'll be able to tell, and somehow get a refund, or buy some other bread that doesn't have sawdust. That seems like a lot of work and optimism compared to regulations and inspections by qualified professionals earlier in the process.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 months ago

i feel like there's a lot of astroturfing in the comments here, how depressing

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[-] RBWells@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I think it's more like government can ban what can be sold as food and make advice. They can't really stop you from drinking bleach or eating the grass in your yard or whatever. They can only prevent you from feeding it to someone else or selling it as food.

Meat isn't a food that could be banned in the same way as, say, Red Dye #4 or force-hydrogenated fats or high fructose corn syrup. They could make farmers cull whole herds of cows if mad cow broke out i guess, but there are wild hogs, backyard chickens and goats, it's just not a controllable food.

[-] lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yum tasty cardboard is back on the menu. /s

[-] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hyperbole-loving drama queens.

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