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[-] graycube@lemmy.world 241 points 1 year ago

I think the media coverage drop off is due to her getting older (and thus more "ordinary" - less newsworthy), and due to her not changing her issues or opinions much (and thus there is nothing "new," to report). Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 211 points 1 year ago

The ship she was planning on boarding to Gaza was literally attacked by Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla_incident

There is plenty newsworthy here.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 36 points 1 year ago

Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

Don't derail the attention somewhere else. News are mostly about the same popular people who have been under the spotlight for decades, there actually no much space for neither fresh or cute. It is implied in the picture why the media coverage drop.

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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago

It is kinda like with Martin Luther King Jr. and Fred Hampton. It is very sus that they are killed once they started organising for class solidarity, regardless of colour, and speaking about wealth inequality.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Came here to say this.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 83 points 1 year ago

Because governments were only using her for greenwashing and control public opinion.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What is the name of the Arab girl that advocated for girls education on the Arab world? She was also blocked out by the media the second she started talking about socialism and the injustices that the capitalist system brings in.

[-] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 55 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Malala Yousafzai

Edit: a couple corrections.

She's Pashtun (Pakistani), not arab, but she is a practicing Muslim. She was fighting against the Taliban's ban on girls from education, which is not a feature of the rest of the muslim world. It's a feature of extreme fundamentalism, of any religion, not of Islam.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks you.

Edit: adicional thanks for the further corrections.

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[-] Novocirab@feddit.org 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Indeed, first time I hear about this aspect of Malala Yousafzai's activism. Thank you, wow.

For context: https://socialistworker.org/2014/10/15/the-malala-you-wont-hear-about (Compare also this thread, where someone makes clear that her being involved with socialism is no misunderstanding.)

[-] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 73 points 1 year ago

As you add more and more issues to the protests, the set of people that have the same opinion on every single issue gets smaller and smaller, until your movement falls apart.

In Germany around the same time, climate protests started to take stances on immigration and cultural approbation and also fell apart as a result.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago

Brother I don't even know how you plan to sit here and pretend like those are separate issues. You can't separate capitalism and climate change. You simply cannot.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 70 points 1 year ago

That's not the point they're making.

As you add more issues, then the Venn diagram of overlap of all the issues gets smaller and smaller. It doesn't matter if you think this is an obvious objective truth. What matters is what other people think, because you won't have much of a "movement" without other people who agree and join you.

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[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

This is what happened to Occupy Wall Street in the US, and I'm convinced it was intentional movement busting.

Probably the same thing with the climate protests in Germany.

[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

Germany elected a more left leaning government and they actually did pass some good climate legislation. That was aided by Putin cutting of fossil fuels to Germany as well, but the protests and public mood were certainly on the site of climate action. However the protests were having problems of bringing the same numbers on the street as before covid and the fossil fuel industry spend on a lot on busting the protests.

Then the far right really gained strength in Germany and that became the much more pressing issue, rather then climate change.

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[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

In Germany around the same time, climate protests started to take stances on immigration and cultural approbation and also fell apart as a result.

Fell apart according to who? The media? This is really what the post is trying to discuss. Why did Greta Thunberg media coverage drop once she started get involved in other protests too?

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[-] Mumrik@feddit.nu 67 points 1 year ago

She's always made that connection.. since day one. The whole "How dare you!?" Speech was about people still only talking about making profits of climate change rather then doung Everything to prevent more change from happening.

The reason she's not the center of media attention any more is because she's been the center of attention for years already and viewers/readers aren't as interested in her any more. Her name doesn't pull as much attention any more.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 39 points 1 year ago

I remember smear pieces from German press after October 7 2023, where they claimed Greta would have fallen in the eyes of the world. The idea that "the world" may not follow the same narratives as Germany seemed to be beyond comprehension for those writers.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Germany is bound eternally to Israel because they'll never feel like they've atoned for the holocaust and Israel is THE Jewish state unfortunately. The historic antisemitism in Europe has been so bad that basically nobody can say anything bad about Israel without them playing the "oh we're doing that again?" Card. I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they've got protecting their every action. I know there are a lot of Jewish people who don't support Israel's actions, but apparently that's not enough.

[-] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they’ve got protecting their every action.

I mean, I know what it took for me. It's a shame so many in Gaza had to die for it, but I'll never look at them the same. Changing all of Germany/Europe may take longer, but surely what's happening is just as plain to anyone with eyes over there as it is over here in the land of the Mango Mussolini.

[-] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago

Part of that problem is the say 5% of people for whom anti-Israel does mean anti-jewish, and the other people who would choose to respond to Israeli genocide with a genocide of their own. It gives the Israeli government and its supporters something to point to as justification, and people who don't pay much attention to the situation just accept that at face value.

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[-] _bac@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Maybe Germany can atone for one holocaust by working to prevent another one.

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[-] GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Greta Thunberg's name will be penned next to Malcolm X and Mahatma Gandhi in the history books of the future.

[-] Knightfox@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Wasn't she on those topics pretty much from the beginning? I think it really just boils down to the media (and people in general) just moved on to the next story. Greta's initial appeal was that she was a kid who was effecting change and reactions. These days she's just another 20-something that shows up at protests and people upvote on social media.

A lot of people in the comments are talking about Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. as comparisons, but where they differ from Greta is that they started with protests but were able to successfully fold that into movements and action. X and King didn't just protest, they didn't just yell at the walls of the establishment and demand change. King was the leader of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference which organized protests, but also helped mobilize voters, lobbied congress, and helped to draft legislation. X was part of the Nation of Islam which was a particularly powerful group in the 1960's which challenged Civil Rights issues in the court system.

For a long time Greta really hasn't had much to add to the discussion on climate change other than to say stop doing what we are doing. She's not part of some powerful organization, she's not lobbying governments, she's not challenging issues in the courts, and she's not proposing solutions, she's just pointing out the problems everyone already knows exists and powerful governments are already ignoring.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 28 points 1 year ago

I think she's closer to Rosa Parks - she's a symbol fighting the good fight, but not the leader of the movement

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

FWIW Rosa Parks was part of an organization with a plan to achieve its goals. I wish the same were true of Greta.

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[-] Sunsofold@lemmings.world 20 points 1 year ago

As a 'climate activist' she started as a parody, passionate and articulate about a hot topic but dismissable as a child. But when you start to say certain things, you lose broad appeal. You can go out and rail against the 'elites' 'rigging the system' to 'keep us down' but the moment you say the 'bourgeoisie' are 'exploiting the workers' and 'using capital to wage a class war,' you are not getting broadcast, and not being listened to by many people. People love Marxism by other terms but if you use the Marxist words, you won't be taken seriously.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

When Martin Luther King Jr. moved beyond equal rights for black people into protesting the Vietnam War and capitalism in general, he took a bullet to the face. I suppose Greta can consider herself lucky - so far.

[-] Philosaraptor7@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

It seems in general that attention isn't even On climate change like it was before covid. The news platforms are filled with populist governments wars and genocides. Eve. Though climate change is the greatest existential threat it's ability ro grab attention has faded

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

We don't want to actually fix the causes of climate change, that would be silly and harm to the poor billionaires.

We want you to think its your fault, and to stop using plastic straws.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Seek the news sites telling the truth, not handing you what advertisers will pay for.

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