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[-] graycube@lemmy.world 241 points 2 months ago

I think the media coverage drop off is due to her getting older (and thus more "ordinary" - less newsworthy), and due to her not changing her issues or opinions much (and thus there is nothing "new," to report). Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 211 points 2 months ago

The ship she was planning on boarding to Gaza was literally attacked by Israel.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Gaza_Freedom_Flotilla_incident

There is plenty newsworthy here.

[-] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 36 points 2 months ago

Our newstainment system wants new and fresh and cute. Not serious and persistent.

Don't derail the attention somewhere else. News are mostly about the same popular people who have been under the spotlight for decades, there actually no much space for neither fresh or cute. It is implied in the picture why the media coverage drop.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Nah. She just doesn't really have anything to say. "Carbon bad" isn't really a message in 2025.

She's an activist in that she gets arrested a lot but there's plenty of people really achieving things that don't have the social media clout she does.

She also doesn't have any special credibility. Why would you interview a serial protester when you could interview an expert.

As an aside I've learned that any thing less than breathless support for her on lemmy will earn a deluge of downvotes. So have at me dweebs - express your support for this tapped out child star with your spiciest downvote.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

Whining about downvotes? That's a downvote.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 13 points 2 months ago

Sometimes i even downvote people i agree with for bitching about downvotes lmao

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Hah. Not whining at all. Just acknowledging that my opinion on this is not a popular one, while antagonising the 14 year olds who admire her.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago

I'm 45 and I'm inclined to agree with most of what she says.

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

51 and same, but maybe I'm just naive in wanting a world where my future grandchildren might be able to see a field full of fireflies once again.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I didn't say I don't agree with her. I'm saying she doesn't have any special credibility. I'd rather hear from an expert on climate change and mitigation thanks.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago
[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago
[-] CMonster@discuss.online 29 points 2 months ago

Hubris detected. Opinion ignored.

[-] crowbar@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

She is just trying to raise awareness (and it made some progress), despite all the wrong things you think about her, true or not, the effect is net positive to the planet. Do you hate living on a planet with fewer disasters that much? Do you hate people who try to make the world a better place? Please help me see this from your point of view.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

She is just trying to raise awareness (and it made some progress)

You don't have any evidence of that though do you. Everyone's aware of climate change.

despite all the wrong things you think about her, true or not

This is kind of my point about Lemmy users. I haven't said anything bad about her, but my comment was not vapid loyalty so here we are.

Do you hate living on a planet with fewer disasters that much?

This is a really silly question.

Do you hate people who try to make the world a better place?

I don't hate people who try, but I get very frustrated by people who want to celebrate ineffective trying.

There are people who are actually making progress on mitigating the impacts of climate change. Greta is not one of them.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You don't have any evidence of that though do you

A lot of kids who follow her probably changed to a more sustainable, more environment friendly lifestyle. And I see a lot more young people veering towards sustainable projects.

But I guess that won't make a nice and easy graph for you. Does it?

I don't particularly like her, but I have a problem with people downplaying and demeaning activism. It's so rampant on reddit in any kind of protest post that doesn't blow up to front page, you would almost feel they're being targeted to lessen their reach. Just deflecting, derailing, demeaning any chance they get. The astroturfing is insane.

As long as they're not making off money for themselves, hiding nefarious intent behind a cause, then getting sponsored and bought, let them do their activism for good.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

It's not that your intuition doesn't make a graph, it's that I have a strong suspicion that Gretas efforts at "raising awareness" are counter productive.

She's precisely the wrong type of person to influence the kind of people who need to change their behaviour. She's great at preaching to the choir, but that's not going to save us.

Activism for the sake of activism is counter productive, because it makes people feel like they've done something to address the problem.

Excuse me while I go update my Facebook profile photo with whatever banner makes me look clever this week.

[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

You think wrong

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