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I'm what's known as a chronic hopper. I'm always on the lookout for new software, especially when it comes to browsers and Linux distros, but I'm here to ask you about browsers specifically. I'm fairly sure I know most of them, but I want to really know why you run what you do. In return, I will give you my experiences with the browsers that I have tried and why I hopped from them if I did.

Don't feel the need to read the list. I'll be more than happy to just hear your answers!

  • Firefox: One of the grand-daddy browsers. I honestly didn't hop from it due to anything specific, but more that I've used it so much that I needed a change.
  • Chrome: I used this very little. Just being on it made my skin crawl. However, I still keep it around in a container because some sites straight up tell you that you have to use it to access their dashboards or application forms. While that is now much less these days (as most things will now ask for Chrome or Firefox now), it still does happen, especially on dated government sites that get updated like... once a decade...
  • Opera GX: Yup, I fell into the hype. I think I used this for all of a month before recognizing it as over-engineered and needlessly bloated. It pulls you in with gimmicks and pretty lights and that's pretty much all it has. A browser that's literally built on smoke and mirrors and pushy advertising.
  • Brave: There's been a lot of huff about Brave lately, but back when it launched and wasn't very mainstream it was the smoothest and a relatively more secure browser than the competition. There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave. The problem started when they began to opt you into gimmicks and extra things you didn't need without your permission. That was a turnoff for me. I outed before things really went downhill. -Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I've never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it's core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It's fairly vetted and trusted from what I've researched.
  • Vivaldi: Still one of my favorite browsers when I went back to Windows, but probably has the most bugs I've seen in any browser. It got better once they swapped to React portals, but Vivaldi (Windows version) would occasionally freeze my whole PC or else I'd BSOD. This was a combination of the browser's stability and making my own custom CSS for it, but overall it frustrated me more than other browsers.
  • Qutebrowser: Still one of my favorites, and a must-have for me even if its not my main browser. I was diving into the Vimium extension for Firefox, which in turn led me to Neovim, which led me to Qutebrowser. There's a few main points as to why I don't use it as my go-to. First, its not very good at squashing first-party ads. Even though you can combo custom ad block lists, Brave adblock, and python-adblock, it just can't seem to get them all. Second, I rely on my history when browsing YouTube and if you want to get around ads, your best bet is to write a custom shortcut that opens links in MPV/VLC. There are Greasemonkey scripts that should increase ad speed to a fraction of a second and auto-skip, but none of them ever worked for me and most are ancient.
  • Nyxt: My next logical step after Qutebrowser was Nyxt. However, I've never managed to figure out how to work it. I haven't really done any extensive bug testing, but when it opens its just a blank window and there's not much I could find for documentation on it. Part of me wonders if there's something that only trusted people know that gets it working, the other part wonders if I'm just missing some sort of library or dependency. From here I went back to Floorp for a while. -Zen: I was very excited when I found this browser. Another Firefox fork, it aims to be much like Arc browser, but adds a lot more on top of that. However, in recent months I find they've become a little too ambitious. If you asked me two months ago, I would tell you that Zen felt just as smooth as Floorp, but these days its much, much laggier. The scrolling is choppy, the pages load slow. I use the same exact extensions on Zen as I do Floorp and the difference now is night and day. I've also tested this on fresh, no-extras no-extension installations and the results are the same. Zen tends to change things and instead of letting the user opt into the additions or changes, they force the changes in their updates. That type of development model just isn't really for me. I don't want to have to re-figure out how to use my browser every few days.

So there it is. I hop a LOT. Honorable mention is Ladybird and I've tested it a little. It is extremely alpha, being just a portal with the basics you need for browsing, but I'm amazed at what they've done so far and very excited for it's release. For now I've returned to Floorp and am very happy with it. I'm very curious to know why you like what you do, whether its just because its what you've used for a long time or if there's something that you can't do without.

Also, please excuse me if this question has been asked before. I didn't want to necro an old post and I want to be able to reply and ask more questions! I've seen many posts discussing a single browser, but I want a more general view. I'm very interested, because the Lemmy community often values their privacy and their rights, which is a major factor in choosing software for me.

Edit: I feel like I'm answering very quickly, but want you to know that I'm not a bot nor using AI. I type at 110wpm in Dvorak. Typing is a huge hobby of mine and would never use AI to do something I love to do for me. I'm set on getting to 200wpm (100 was my first goal). That being said, I can't answer everyone, so I'm sorry if I missed your reply!

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[-] SethranKada@lemmy.ca 58 points 1 month ago

Librewolf. It does everything i need, and nothing i don't. It doesn't have bloatware or adware, and it respects my privacy. That's all I care about, besides that it can still do everything I need a browser to do.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago

I need to try Librewolf. I've seen the praises it gets here on Lemmy. I've been holding off, because I feel like Floorp is very similar. I may try Firedragon as well, but I feel like it may be rather bloated as far as FF forks go.

[-] klu9@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago

IIRC, Firedragon is Floorp with the best of Librewolf.

I was using it until a couple of months ago, when an update not only wiped all my open pages but also all the workspaces I'd created.

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[-] NeedyPlatter@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago

I've tried a good amount of Firefox forks and Librewolf is hands down my fav. God tier browser imo

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago

There was a time when nearly everyone ran Brave

Wut

[-] podperson@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

For real - I didn’t know what to make of such a completely false statement.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

Lol, brief time and more in the general public. Very brief time, before it even had a mobile app. I was still on Reddit then, and it was the number one recommended everywhere. I'm foggy, but I believe it didn't even have the wallet at the time (though correct me if I'm wrong, because I may be).

I've been following browser trends since Netscape Navigator, and I catch the small shifts, no matter how brief. Though, admittedly, it may have just been the groups I ran in that used it. I can't speak for everyone, just what I saw at the time.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

I doubt it ever, even for a single day, cracked the top 3 downloads for a browser. Maybe top 3 mobile browsers in terms of downloads over a brief stretch, but not in terms of market share overall

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[-] Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

This ia what they call an echo chamber. You took it at face value and didn't question it.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 month ago

I use Firefox but I'm keeping my eye on Ladybird

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Ladybird is the most exciting thing to happen to browsers. Madlads really doing it, building from the ground up. I have mad respect for them. I gotta see if they have a donation page and give them some support. I want this to work and blow everything else out of the water.

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

For sure! I only heard about it recently but it's so exciting and they've already made so much progress. I'll definitely be switching once it's deemed to be in a releasable state.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Same.

But we all know !links2@lemmy.sdf.org is the best browser. And if you use piefed, you can use it :)

[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago
[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago

Number one on the list of why you should use Firefox, lol. Fuck Chrome.

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[-] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 14 points 1 month ago

LibreWolf, I've been using Firefox ever since I switched from Mozilla browser, but nowadays with what Mozilla is doing I felt compelled to switch to LibreWolf and IronFox.

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[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Firefox. Because using even a slightly sketchy browser for shit like banking logins is insane.

[-] douz0a0bouz@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

Firefox because Ladybird isn't ready yet.

[-] kcweller@feddit.nl 11 points 1 month ago

Zen, a heavily modified firefox. A different design paradigm than every other browser, which I personally like. Easy hot keys, runs on any OS, lots of customizability.

Needless to say I'm a big fan!

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[-] ninjaturtle@lemmy.today 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Firefox, since its an overall good browser. Added a custom user-script to it.

Vivaldi, for anything Google specific since its chromium base. Also in case something breaks in Firefox.

Like to keep my activities seperate. This is only for desktop.

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[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Firefox, been using it forever. Nothing has got me to permanently switch.

I use lynx in the terminal sometimes for fun.

[-] emptybamboo@midwest.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Vivaldi

  • I love the UI and its customizability
  • They are active participants in the Fediverse (@vivaldi@vivaldi.net) and they even have their own Mastodon instance for users (Vivaldi.social)
  • Based in Europe
  • Most importantly, they reject the crypto and AI hype trains

My backup is Firefox but I have also been trying out Librewolf.

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[-] callyral@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I use Zen because it looks better than Firefox

Edit: just installed IronFox on my phone due to this thread.

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[-] applemao@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Fiiirefoooxx

[-] thirtyfold8625@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 month ago

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/desktop-browsers/

The default browser for any operating system that isn't created by Microsoft or Google is probably suitable for most people.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

This looks like a good read. I'm sure many of the Firefox recommended settings can be applied to it's various forks, too. Thank you for this! I've got it bookmarked and will be checking it out soon.

[-] lazycouchpotato@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Browser is the one of the few softwares I'm picky about and won't change. I've used Firefox for so many years now, my entire workflow revolves around it.

Containers has been a game changer for me. The screenshot tool is also excellent.

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[-] megane_kun@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No one mentioned Floorp yet, so I guess it's on me.

It's Firefox, but with more customization options right out of the box. I also have an ungoogled Chromium on standby for those sites unwilling to work well with Firefox (and forks).


EDIT:

Oh, it's mentioned in the OP:

  • Floorp: A random find from exploring Linux for the first time. I was running Pop!_OS and found it on the store. I’ve never experienced such a smooth Firefox fork before. It really is barebones, but has a lot of customization built in. Instead of the custom options piling on one another, most of them change how it works on a foundational level. The style of your UI and tabs, side tabs, fading URL bar buttons, and a lot more. At it’s core, Floorp is a stripped down and security first FF fork developed in Japan. I took the time to translate the TOS pages, and most of it is promising that there is no data collection. It’s fairly vetted and trusted from what I’ve researched.
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[-] madjo@feddit.nl 7 points 1 month ago

Firefox, I even go out of my way to install it on any company laptop I get. It's not Google owned, I can easily change the default search engine to Kagi or Ecosia.

[-] Combativ@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

Always been Firefox for its reliability and it has just the features I need and want from a Browser. Switched to Floorp for a few months because of its "tab spaces" but with Firefox's new tab grouping feature it has been my main again.

[-] gon@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Firefox.

I can personalize it as much as I want and it respects my privacy, or at least any part that doesn't can be easily turned off.

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[-] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago

Zen Browser. Based on Firefox but I prefer the UI

[-] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Librewolf/firefox and Ironfox on Android because

  • Customizable and very easy to config (you can change the firefox ui via Chrome css and the browser stuff in about:config)
  • Privacy (Mainly Librewolf and ironfox)
  • Modern and still has ublock origin and noscript (aka manifest v2)

But i may rarely use a chromium based browser (Cromite,Vivaldi for example) i might even use Orion if it comes to Linux and Android

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

LibreWolf, because Mozilla makes bad decisions.

[-] sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

Waterfox. Just the right spot between stock ff and modifications. I’ve tried zen and floorp but it’s waterfox for me.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Firefox. I've stuck with it for what, a decade now? I used Chrome before.

I use it simply because it's not Chromium and works. There's Firefox forks but they don't offer enough to pull me from Firefox. Yet.

On iOS/iPad I generally stick with Safari because of how non-native browsers were forced to be just skins. But I bounce between phones and ecosystems and I've been off Apple for more than a year.

If something needs Chromium to work (very rare), I open Vivaldi.

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[-] OnfireNFS@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I switched to Firefox from Chrome back when they were branding it as Firefox Quantum and honestly I have been happy with it. It has been just as fast as Chrome if not faster, it might use more memory but unused memory means your computer could be caching more.

I don't love the stuff Mozilla has been doing recently but it's not enough to make me switch. I think the brand redesign in 2024 was pretty horrible, moz://a was genius design compared to the P thing they have now. I think they have also been chasing AI stuff recently. Mozilla has done some pretty cool things in the past though like Rust, Servo and Fluent.

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[-] beerclue@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I've been using Zen for a few months. It's based on Firefox, with some UI changes. I really like the workspace management, having separate "environments" for work and private use.

[-] fenpy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Firefox, LibreWolf and Mullvad.

[-] eestileib 5 points 1 month ago

I use Firefox because I have worked at both Google and MSFT and want as little to do as possible with their products.

[-] zlatiah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

On laptop:

  • Primary LibreWolf, as it does everything I need, and I don't 100% trust Mozilla anymore after recent incidents so I wanted a non-Mozilla fork of Firefox
  • Secondary Chromium, when something refuses to run on Firefox and derivatives

On phone:

  • Primary FOSS Browser, I think it might be some guy's passion project... It works so yeah
  • Secondary Vanadium, basically GrapheneOS' in-house Chromium fork. For when the primary browser doesn't do the job, which happens more often because I have FOSS Browser set on blocking all JavaScript...
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[-] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 5 points 1 month ago

Ironfox on phone, Librewolf on computer.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 1 month ago

Waterfox because of the UI customizations and built-in vertical tree-style sidebar without needing to fiddle with userchrome.css everytime, as well as automatic Betterfox (Firefox config for speed and privacy) and the settings ToC

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For home: Firefox. I've tried the forks and I always hate something about them more than whatever good they offer.

Work: Chrome. I don't really have much of a choice.

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[-] Dumbkid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

Firefox, used to switch to edge to get hevc HDR to work from my jellyfin server. But now Firefox will pass it through AV1. So it my only browser now

[-] SayJess 4 points 1 month ago

I’m a filthy causal… I use Safari on Mac and iOS. It’s fine. It works. I don’t really care that much about my browser. On Linux I like Firefox, but on my RaspberryPi’s I just use Chromium. It’s fine.

[-] AugustWest@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

It took a long time to switch to Firefox, but it is now my main browser. I mean I really liked the Mozilla suite and Firefox just didn't seem ready for awhile, but eventually I made the move.

Firefox ever since.

[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Firefox on pc, I've been using it for years and it has served me well. On the phone I use fennec.

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