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More like keep hitting f2 furiously (sub.wetshaving.social)
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[-] mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

yeh.... this works 100% if you are single booting Linux. As soon as Windows enter the equation, things get fucked up because of stupid Windows update. Say you have an update and it fails to install because the message "Windows is wotking on updates. Don't turn off the PC. This will take a while" appears for like 6 hrs. Try to press F2/Del to enter Bios? Tough luck, I smashed the shit out of those keys and still... booted straight into Windows.

You then need to go do some convoluted shits like the Shift + Restart combo to go the Diagnostic screen and restart into Setup page (the Bios).

[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 hours ago

I saw one Microsoft help page in which the customer service agent recommended to cut power to the PC during the Windows 8 or 10 boot process, three times! After three failed boots, newer Windows will bring up the UEFI boot options dialog.

My Sharp PC-7000 has a Setup key on the keyboard.

[-] F04118F@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

Oh my god, it exists. An Enter key large enough to please both ANSI and ISO fans.

[-] tiramichu@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

In the mechanical keyboard community this even-larger-than-ISO-enter size is generally referred to, quite affectionately, as the "bigass" enter.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 28 points 10 hours ago

On my system, I can just run

$ sudo systemctl reboot --firmware-setup

And it'll take the system to the BIOS.

From the systemctl(1) man page:

   --firmware-setup
       When used with the reboot, poweroff, or halt
       command, indicate to the system's firmware to
       reboot into the firmware setup interface for the
       next boot. Note that this functionality is not
       available on all systems.

       Added in version 220.

   --boot-loader-menu=timeout
       When used with the reboot, poweroff, or halt
       command, indicate to the system's boot loader to
       show the boot loader menu on the following boot.
       Takes a time value as parameter โ€” indicating the
       menu timeout. Pass zero in order to disable the
       menu timeout. Note that not all boot loaders
       support this functionality.

       Added in version 242.
[-] notthebees@reddthat.com 13 points 7 hours ago

But that requires me to boot into an os first. I do use it but if it's off then it feels redundant.

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Might still be useful for when you configured fast booting on your hardware. Stuff like that usually doesn't leave enough time for you to manually hit the hotkey during boot.

[-] svcg 9 points 7 hours ago

Is there anything systemd can't do?!

[-] felsiq@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

It canโ€™t make gentoo users like it ๐Ÿ˜ญ

[-] notthebees@reddthat.com 6 points 7 hours ago

I'd like to talk about the secret third option, escape.

[-] Goretantath@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Can't you just hold f2 and it works the same as mashing it now?

[-] MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago

Me pressing Del like Im Rowan Atkinson at the 2012 Olympics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwzjlmBLfrQ

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 64 points 13 hours ago

I've been buying Gigabyte and pressing "DEL" since 1998.

It's insane that there is no accepted UX standard for this.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 39 points 13 hours ago

The keys should be standard and work if just held down.

[-] groet@feddit.org 14 points 11 hours ago

I dont know enough about electronics to say for certain but I think Holding down the key doesn't work from a technical standpoint. If you press it down before the relevant stage of the boot process is running there might not actually run any code to even detect the key press. And holding down a key doesn't continuously send new keypresses. Only "key down" and "key released".

But 100% agree on the standardised key. And it should be something that ia on every keyboard and not behind an alternative funktion! No alt/shift/fn. Just make it enter or something!

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 hours ago

If you press it down before the relevant stage of the boot process is running there might not actually run any code to even detect the key press.

I think I have seen it work on several machines, but stopped doing it because often it does not

[-] lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago

Keyboards don't run like that. The keyboard itself does not know when a key is pressed. They poll the keys and send a message when they find one that is depressed

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

nah this is how ps2 works

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 2 points 9 hours ago

PS2 is hardly used in consumer products these days.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 hours ago

aren't most internal laptop keyboards ps2?

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 3 points 4 hours ago

That's actually a good point. I don't know. I only know of one example, where I it was USB.

[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

yep, on ps2 keyboards this is the case

[-] dabster291@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Actually, holding down the key does work!

[-] dabster291@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

work if just held down

They do!

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 14 points 9 hours ago

On some machines.

[-] dabster291@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

Wait, what brands don't support holding down the key? /gen

[-] RejZoR@lemmy.ml 37 points 13 hours ago

With sequel "The Escape or F12โ€œ coming to theaters Fall 2025.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 23 points 13 hours ago

I have one that uses f8.

Would have been nice if they could have standardized this like 30 years ago. Or at least just label the key.

[-] GreenMartian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago

On unfamiliar machines, I just faceroll over the function keys hoping to hit the right one..

[-] Zorsith 2 points 7 hours ago

ALL the keys, not just BIOS. PXE, hardware test, all of it. And a button to pause at the screen listing them all.

[-] VitabytesDev@feddit.nl 2 points 7 hours ago

Thinkpads use Enter for some reason. My laptop uses Escape.

[-] Sorse@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago

Mine uses F8 for the boot picker

[-] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Plot twist: It was INS the whole time.

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 12 points 12 hours ago

Me pressing F1, F2, DEL, Enter, ... to be sure.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 12 points 14 hours ago

FU Dell BIOS and your F11 b/s.

[-] egonallanon@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago

You know you can just hold the button down right?

[-] f4f4f4f4f4f4f4f4@sopuli.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

Sometimes this works. Sometimes it makes the PC speaker beep for two minutes straight while it slowly makes its way through the keyboard buffer.

[-] Blackjeans9@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

F in chat for family

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