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[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 63 points 1 day ago

"McDonald's is a job for high schoolers, it's not a career!"

Then why are they open during school hours, and why do you go there during your lunch break, Gladys, when kids are "at school" and can't "flip burgers"?

[-] Mpdaves@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah if they pay a living wage to everyone then high schoolers could work part time for real too which would also be better.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 day ago

Florida: Let's expand the work experience program to backfill immigrant labor!

[-] Notserious@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

I washed dishes part time and afforded a crappy apartment and beer. In our neighborhood many of the houses are rented out by invitation homes. We never have a neighbor for long as there is a lot of turnover. It’s bullshit these companies can just take over the neighborhood.

Invitation Homes Inc. is a public company traded on the New York Stock Exchange. It is headquartered in the Comerica Bank Tower in Dallas, Texas. Dallas B. Tanner is chief executive officer. As of 2017, the company was reportedly the largest owner of single-family rental homes in the United States. As of July 2024, the company owned about 84,000 rental homes in 16 markets.

[-] onnekas@sopuli.xyz 28 points 1 day ago

If a job at McDonald's doesn't pay your bills and groceries then who do you think would even do this job?

People who are already wealthy and do it just for the fun of flipping burgers?!

[-] jmf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

So many people believe those jobs solely exist for highschool college kids to get started in life until they 'develop skills.' I can't even imagine the lack of empathy you have to have for all those not in that position desperately trying to live.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Maybe! I have long maintained that if I ever luck into being obscenely wealthy, I will absolutely open some manner of food service or retail establishment similar to those I've worked at in the past, but not give a fuck about turning a profit and make a cornerstone of my business telling off customers for being the rude, self-centered, and entitled little shits that so many of them are. I'll consider it a much needed public service.

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[-] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

They are trying to get us to accept the the new American Economic Paradigm that ALL households require at least two paychecks to exist, and 3 or 4 if you want to get ahead.

Of course, employers want us to be enslaved to them for our entire schedule, so they don't like us working second jobs or side hustle.

Time for Robin Hood economics (take from the rich, give to the poor).

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 30 points 1 day ago

If you think flipping burgers is easy, why aren’t you doing it yourself?

Pay all workers a living wage!

[-] mriswith@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago

Boomers still think fast-food jobs are part-time things that teenagers do for some pocket change. They literally do not grasp the idea that there are adults working there to pay rent and buy food.

[-] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They dont realize that teenagers dont even have jobs anymore mostly

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

look can we stop with the boomer crap? that is a myth and disproved so many times. lets work together instead of insulting whole generations of people we don't know

[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

It's not a myth. If it wasn't so disgustingly true across the board I'd be in agreement. Class war over generational and all that, but I'll also call out the systems and people that are actively (STILL) shitting all over progress. Their generation is at fault in large part to why we're so utterly fucked and continue to be (see Reagan). The majority of our gov is run by geriatric fucks that refuse to align with their constituents and cling on to their positions until they're literally in wheel chairs. Those are fucking boomers. They're in charge still, and they're the ones holding the reins on voting in any iota of progress in any number of categories, one being minimum wage. Fuck them.

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[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago
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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago

I cannot remember the last time I saw a high schooler working at a fast food joint.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Don't worry. With Republicans working hard to repeal child labor laws, you should see more in fast food and also in the mines soon!

Every food service place in my area fired their under-18 staff. Apparently it was a manager fad to declare minors "too much trouble" and so the only high schoolers I see are bagging groceries or camp counselors for little kids. My kids are 15 and want to start working but the best job in town that allows them is serving dinner and doing laundry at the fancy retirement community.

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[-] Nay@feddit.nl 155 points 2 days ago

But if no one has to struggle, how will we know who's beneath us??

[-] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 days ago

Hint: we’re all at the bottom and there’s only another layer

[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it should come paired with a heavily unionised workforce, otherwise you end up like the UK where the minimum wage keeps going up, but salaries of people who were previously not on the minimum wage stay the same, so now everyone else is actually earning less because prices are rising but salaries are only rising at the top and bottom, eliminating the middle class entirely. A doctor is NOT a minimum wage job, and yet doctors in the UK are earning almost below the minimum wage, given the number of hours they actually work.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

That is an issue, but it's still a better world than the one in which only two of the pay bands are making ends meet rather than all three.

[-] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Exactly. Don't let perfection get in the way of progress.

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[-] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

In the US, people we have the same problem with college degree+ level jobs being underpaid, but people without them are just impoverished for life. And some of the ones with the college degree jobs too!

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 47 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

If you work, you and your family should have their needs met, aka, we should all be able to help our community have all of our basic needs met

This same worker should also have capital F free health care a house or condo he and his family like or she and her family, or their family, yours or mine

This worker should be able to have paid leave, both vacation and sick.

[-] teft@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago

I’ll do you one better. If you exist you and your family should have their needs met. We have the ability to feed, provide medical care, and house everyone on the planet many times over yet we don’t. I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to figure out why we don’t.

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[-] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes. Minimum wage is supposed to cover every basic living necessity at the very least - from rent to food to even a modest amount of leftover money meant for a bit of fun here and there. It's not supposed to allow a lavish lifestyle or allow one to eat at restaurants every day, obviously, but it should allow you to live modestly and support your household regardless of you living with others or alone.

So for these McDonald's overlords who live lavish livestyles thanks to the thankless work these workers put in, then why should they even work at a McDonald's in the first place? With inflation constantly rising and wages staying where they are someday even a McDonald's job won't be worth the hassle for the non-livable pitance of money they receive in return.

Down with overly rich billionaires living off other people's misery. If your business allows for you to live the most lavish and extravagant life while your workers barely have enough to make ends meet, you are not a successful businessperson, but a grifter to society and use your power to keep the status quo as it currently is. Flipping burgers on a McDonald's or working in garbage disposal are still essential jobs to serve society, and people are needed for them.

So they should still be properly valued and compensated as humans trying to live their lives while they supply the vital workforce for those same jobs - those positions have to be filled anyway and are of importance to society at large, so let's not pretend we don't need people for them and treat them like less-than-humans. Plain and simple - there's more than enough for the rich to still be rich and live their lavish lives while regular people maintain a satisfactory level of life, and no need to ghoulishly hoard all the wealth (in many cases through tax loopholes which should not be legal whatsoever) like they were gonna live eternally.

And no, I'm not a minimum wage worker, so with this I'm not advocating for myself, but for what's right for us as a society.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 34 points 1 day ago

Right-wingers remind me of that meme template where the dog has the ball and it's going "Throw! No Take! Only throw!"

They want a thriving economy, but they don't want to pay people wages. No pay. Only spend.

[-] Ashenlux 14 points 1 day ago

That's the part I don't understand. Why do they not realize that if you give people enough money to pay living expenses and then some, they will spend more money. What is the point of having all the money stuck at the top? A thriving economy requires money to circulate, but its getting caught between the same handful of greedy assholes. And they seem to just want to make the problem worse. If they do that, the economy will collapse and then all that money will be worthless anyway.

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[-] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 75 points 2 days ago

their con man idols tell them that the reason their lives are shitty is because of the mexicans, gays, black people, women, librarians, immigrants....everyone except the people who are literally paying them nothing and laughing at them for it.

and the people are all too happy to believe it

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