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I wanna listen to a particular song by an artist who has recently turned pretty nazi. As I generally use Spotify I now refuse to listen to his music in there, esp as it generates earnings. I kinda wanna pirate the music somehow…I’m not gonna as I’m not gonna down a song or two and then store it on my phone like it’s the year 2000. But short story is this me justifying piracy to myself.

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[-] iamanurd@midwest.social 93 points 5 months ago
[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 45 points 5 months ago
[-] iamanurd@midwest.social 13 points 5 months ago
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[-] shadshack@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 months ago

My wife refuses to let me pirate books for her. She wants to support the authors she reads, which is fair. But she decided she wanted to try the Harry Potter books, and asked me to pirate them for her to make sure JK Rowling didn't get a penny out of her.

[-] AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 months ago

Now that's a keeper

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 29 points 4 months ago

Yeah I pirate all the games that:

  • Require an internet connection
  • Use Denuvo
  • Require a dedicated launcher
  • Require a connected account

If you're going to make the paid experience significantly worse than the free one because you want to implement anti-consumer BS, go fuck yourself

[-] prole 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Really important "morals" you've got there. External launchers? Really? Almost like people just look for excuses to pirate and save money. At least be honest with yourself.

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Then don't give me excuses. Don't be a scumbag. External launchers only exist to serve ads and DRM, they have no benefit to the consumer. I own hundreds of games, imagine if each one of them required a dedicated launcher!?

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[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 22 points 4 months ago

Honestly there's so much wonderful art out there not created by Nazis, I don't know that it's worth the energy to pirate Nazi music.

I totally understand the moral pirate argument, I just don't have time to enjoy all of the games, movies, and music from artists I support. To waste what time I have engaging with content from people I find morally repugnant is just not where I'm investing

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[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 5 months ago

If it can't own my media, I'm certainly not going to pay for it.

[-] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 months ago

I periodically delete my Metallica collection so I can re-download it for no other reason than fuck Lars.

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

I play bass. Metallica cut Newsted's bass line out of And Justice for All. I'll hate them for it forever. I love Trujillo now and still have not listened to a single Metallica album since he's played with them.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Doing this is not only moral; it's virtuous.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 16 points 5 months ago

Eh, it's kinda down to personal perspective. In mine, absolutely a reasonable way to handle things if you love the art, but don't feel morally comfortable supporting the artist.

I recommend people pirate Enders Game, because fuck Orson Scott Card.

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 months ago

I was a newly out queer teenager when OSC started running his mouth about gay marriage. At the same time I was a big Harry Potter fan.

Fuck Orson Scott Card, but he doesn't seem quite so bad anymore.

[-] NakariLexfortaine@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

I view it like the "discomforting uncle versus outright hateful aunt". I still really don't want to support him, but equally, fuck her, she's out here on the fucking daily with her shit.

Plus, at this point, telling someone to pirate anything Rowling is like telling someone to breathe. You're either doing it, or okay with the outcome of your actions.

[-] underline960@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

Basically, don't invite either of them to queer Thanksgiving.

[-] Kernal64@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

I wouldn't invite either to straight Thanksgiving either. Who wants that kind of toxic shit bag hanging around? Fuck those assholes and the hateful garbage they spew.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What about Hogwarts Legacy? I find the game is in an awfully awkward position. I absolutely do not condone Rowling and have divorced her from the franchise as well as almost everything newer than Deathly Hallows from my beloved IP, also hate WB for being corpo scum, but I really liked the groundwork the game laid down so I'd like to see Avalanche Software get a chance to make another game that fixes what the first got wrong while building on what it got right.

Without demolishing copyright laws, we have to give money to WB and some unknown percentage to the witch to get the game we want and I, personally, think we HP fans deserve a genuinely good Hogwarts simulator along the lines of HL meets Bully. Sadly, I can't designate my money to only go to Avalanche.

So in short, can we kill Rowling, WB execs and still get a Hogwarts 2 Electric Boogaloo? Because I like that option. Short of it, pick your annoyingly screwed moral box 😒

[-] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 4 months ago

Honestly, after seeing billionaires buy the US gov and then learning that Spotify is owned by a billionaire and artists are terribly compensated, I have been planning to once again fly the pirate flag. I want to pay the artists, but fuck the current options unless there is a different way idk about.

[-] croaker@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Bandcamp is decent. If you wait for Bandcamp Fridays, all of your money goes to the artist.

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When I wanted to revisit Harry Potter via audiobook, I pirated the books, and I will do it again someday.

[-] shawn1122@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A system that allowed one to pirate corporate American made or distributed content while being able to give back directly to creators would be nice.

[-] colournoun@beehaw.org 3 points 4 months ago

Go to their shows. Buy their merch. That’s where the creators get the most profit.

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 5 months ago
[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 16 points 5 months ago

You have commitment issues with subscriptions.

I despise rent seeking behaviour.

we are not the same.

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[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 months ago

Personally I won't even download it, I even deleted music ive had for years because the artist went maga. And let my daughter use the CD in some arts and crafts, because I can't listen to it anymore.

That said, yeah, I'd prefer to download over buying if I didnt want the company or artist to get the money for it.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 months ago

Downloading and listening can still indicate an indirect form of support. Up to the individual, but I lean towards this guy being as canceled as possible, recommend rerouting any efforts to listen to this towards searching for some new exciting music.

[-] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 months ago

Yup, if you use Denuvo for your games, you can fuck right off

[-] Mondez@lemdro.id 7 points 5 months ago

You should download it to a personal media server and stream it to your phone if you want to enjoy piracy the modern way.

[-] DaGeek247@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

I've found navidrome, tempo, and beets to be a pretty solid combo for that. Jellyfin technically has support for music, but I was not impressed with any of the players or library management that had to go with it.

[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 7 points 5 months ago

Yes I do this all the time for games

[-] Shirasho@lemmings.world 11 points 5 months ago

They tell us we don't own the game, only a license to play the game that they can arbitrarily revoke.

If you are going to hold my right to play something I paid for hostage, you can bet I am going to reclaim what I lost if that access is taken away from me (this does not apply to you selfish assholes that hack games to cheat then get banned).

[-] remon@ani.social 6 points 4 months ago

I never needed any moralistic reason to pirate.

[-] detun3d@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago

I'd make backups of my purchases and share them with love for preservation and promotion of their authors hard work. "Piracy" was already shown to increase sales, not reduce them. If you really want to do something against an artist you no longer align with, dont consume their products. Don't purchase, don't download and don't share their stuff. Just look around for other artists you do align with, get hooked to their art and support them instead.

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If he has turned Nazi then I probably wouldn’t bother to listen to them anymore.

[-] inlandempire@jlai.lu 5 points 4 months ago

Nah I'm just poor

If I had a better situation though, I would pirate for moral reasons

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

My piracy is probably equal parts sticking it to greedy corpos and me just not wanting to pay when I can get it for free.

[-] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 4 months ago

Same, but rather than not wanting to pay its more like I can't afford to pay.

[-] rosco385@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

I am the High Priest of Kopimism. Download from where you want, and go in peace my child.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Of course. I stand on high moral ground when I chose to pirate.

Economy is broken and anti-consumer. Piracy if the only way I know to balance things of. If I wouldn't be pirating I would just be letting those economic bullies take advantage of me.

And specially with cultural products there's another big reason, as I think human culture is to be shared, not sold. I do actually think is inmoral to prevent other humans to freely access anything that could be considered cultural.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 5 points 4 months ago

Yeah. I refuse to give cuts to amazon, spotify, netflix etc.

If I pirate something from a not super rich artist and I really enjoy it. I’ll send them an email and propose to transfer them some money to support them. I don’t want spotify or amazon or google taking a cut.

[-] PiratePanPan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You don't have to justify it, really, but it does feel satisfying when you do.

Which song of his out of curiosity? Just use Soulseek. (nicotine+ on desktop or Seeker on Android)

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[-] ertai@programming.dev 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I would rather own my files on my phone like it's the year 2000 than my devices becoming useless whenever $streaming_service shuts down or changes policy like it's the year 1984...

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[-] GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Of course. By giving a big corporation money they then turn around to pay lobbyist groups to advocate for shittier copyright laws that favor big corporations. Why would I pay them for this "privilege?"

[-] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 months ago

If there is an indie game that I like I will buy it

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