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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 210 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bytes, my man, you need an archived link. https://nitter.net/PabloReports/status/1919822694477947003#m

Edit: A reminder to go after the argument, not the users. No troll baiting.

[-] underline960@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 weeks ago

Just curious, why?

Are we expecting the original to get deleted?

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 142 points 3 weeks ago

Trying to avoid fake tweets while also not sending traffic to Twitter.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 286 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Bullies melt when faced with even the tiniest bit of resistance. Because they are fucking cowards. All bullies are fucking cowards.

They know what they’re doing is illegal, and they only get away with it because some people let them. Don’t be one of those people. When you see your rights being violated, resist! When you see the rights of others being violated, resist then too!

The actions of the manager of the restaurant Chang Chang were not only American, they were patriotic.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 68 points 3 weeks ago

Yep. The Germans coined a nice term, critically: Vorauseilender Gehorsam - pre-emptive obedience. Don't do it.

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago

Save the world, hurt a bully today!

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[-] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Know your rights!

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 186 points 3 weeks ago

Spoiler: They do need a warrant.

Also "you are tresspassed" is a magical phrase that turns ICE agents into criminals and armed ICE agents into armed criminals that you can pull a weapon on.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 132 points 3 weeks ago

Funnily enough the "second amendment" crowd has been completely silent about all this shit. But people really have to use those stand your ground laws.

[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Most of the second amendment crowd have a "daddy" fetish and want to be ruled by a strongman figure. Mostly cuckish cowards

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[-] WHARRGARBL@lemmy.world 106 points 3 weeks ago

Several restaurants pushed back on Tuesday. Here’s an actual article instead of a tweet:

https://www.washingtonian.com/2025/05/06/ice-agents-are-targeting-dc-restaurants/

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, also it looks like the bird site OP has a substack newsletter with a post that goes into a bit more detail (but reports basically the same thing as that Washingtonian article) - https://migrantinsider.com/p/ice-in-dc-restaurants-brace-for-friday (arc)

[-] muusemuuse@lemm.ee 103 points 3 weeks ago

At some point, someone is going to fire the first shot. Then it's open season on ICE agents. And you know what? I'm okay with that.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 71 points 3 weeks ago

I do wonder how all the "violence is never the answer" folks will go if it comes to that. I think a lot of them would side with ICE, sadly.

Personally, I won't be upset if a would-be nazi meets an abrupt end to their career.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

You're absolutely right with thinking they'll stick with ICE. People who value Status Quo over all else ("it hurts my head thinking about the world changing, why can't everything just stay the same???????") always have and always will capitulate to Fascist regimes, because it removes the need for critical thought and the obligation to stand for anything. Moderates will be the death of us if we let them.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago

“Violence is never the answer” types are just controlled opposition. Any and every peaceful protest that doesn't have the risk of escalating to violence can and is just ignored. Did those anti war protests against Bush II's wars ever amount to anything?

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[-] Lenny@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

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[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 92 points 3 weeks ago

"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson

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[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 73 points 3 weeks ago

From the set up, I’d have expected the agents to have unleashed whatever was in that manila folder. You’d think it was important if it was one of the only things they brought in.

Now I’m thinking it was less ICE agents carrying a warrant and more “militia leader bought a pack of folders at Staples” and told his racist minions a folder will get you through doors like wearing hi-vis or a ladder will.

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[-] CocaineShrimp@lemm.ee 65 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think legitimate ICE agents would have backed down. Sounds like an attempted kidnapping...

[-] obsidianfoxxy7870 67 points 3 weeks ago

That's the problem when they never or rarely properly identify themselves. You can never truly know if they are to be believed.

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 59 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

They more than likely were with ICE. The agency has massively and rapidly expanded its enforcement personnel, and has done so in a haphazard way that has (deliberately) not given them an opportunity to properly train personnel up on procedures and rules and stuff. Nobody who wants to do good in the world is going to work for ICE right now. So, they've basically just done a presto gestapo, and a lot of times these guys really are just out there doing the sloppiest, shittiest, and most bully-like law enforcement you could possibly conceive of. I know where I'm posting this, I know what we all generally think of cops here, the current state of ice is about ten rungs down from that. We're talking real amateur hour shit, and they'll get away with it if people let them.

The good news is that apparently none of these fucking jokers seem to know or care how to cross t's and dot i's. You absolutely can send them packing, just like these folks did, and if they don't leave, then call your local sheriff's office or police dept. This is really dependent on your area, metro PD tend to be stocked full of major league assholes, but my local PD is actually pretty chill and has a good working relationship with the community; in my experience, sheriff's deputies tend to be people who got into law enforcement because they're true believers in the ideals of law enforcement (protecting life and property, accountability, etc) and constitutional justice, not because they want to flex on minorities. YMMV.

But if you think you can trust one of your local law enforcement agencies, absolutely call up 911 and tell them that you've got some people here that are trespassing (they've been told to leave and aren't), seem to be impersonating law enforcement (since they won't provide proof of ID), and you're worried that they're trying to kidnap someone, that you think these people are an imminent threat to your life or someone else's. That'll generally get the cops out there in a hurry, and they will likely be not very happy at all that ICE is out here putting on a fucking circus. That, or the agents will hear you and fucking split so that they don't get clowned on by local law enforcement. There have been plenty of instances of federal agents getting arrested while fucking around; mind you, they're almost never charged, but nobody walks away from that particularly happy.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 38 points 3 weeks ago
[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 25 points 3 weeks ago

Sound advice. I know that after a bunch of locals voiced concern about it, our chief said that they are absolutely not working with ICE, and their duty is to serving the whole community first and foremost.

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 weeks ago

That’s great, I hope most jurisdictions bring that same energy.

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[-] flandish@lemmy.world 42 points 3 weeks ago

there is no such thing as a “legitimate ice agent” ;)

[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

I doubt they were actually ICE either.

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[-] NoMadLadNZ@lemmy.nz 62 points 3 weeks ago

This is how the brownshirts operated. Just thugs, power trippin', and attracting the absolute worst people who WANT to wear balaclavas and have the excuse to be intimidating assholes and have the power to bundle people into vans (or railcars).

[-] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

By all means, FIGHT THESE PEOPLE. You owe them nothing.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Incredible to see this kind of solidarity, tbh.

[-] _core@sh.itjust.works 50 points 3 weeks ago

What are the odds it was a couple magats pretending to be ICE to fuck with immigrants or people the think are immigrants.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Depressingly high.

But also…depressingly low. The fact that they couldve been actual govt officials behaving this way is…worse?

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 44 points 3 weeks ago

Behold, the power of "No."

I love to see it.

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[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 39 points 3 weeks ago

Seems like a good time to remember that the nazi secret police were formed out of existing law enforcement agencies.

[-] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So how long until real criminals start following suit and impersonating undercover ICE agents? Not like there's much distinction between either "career" now, is there?

And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners "thought" they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 36 points 3 weeks ago

More of this, please. Warrant or not, fuck ICE.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 30 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] einlander@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

We will end up with a general population that knows their immigration/civil liberties laws and rights, and how to exercise them.

It's going to be real interesting.

[-] Panamalt@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

This is America, the most well armed nation in the world, push us far enough and that manilla folder gonna be full of holes.

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