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[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 248 points 1 year ago

How about go fuck yourself.

[-] SnotFlickerman 199 points 1 year ago

As if the fucking Christian indoctrination wasn't already bad enough here.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 57 points 1 year ago

No. It's the woke that was doing the indoctrination.

Now, against the wall so we can inspect your purity.

[-] entwine413@lemm.ee 44 points 1 year ago

You haven't seen anything yet. They're trying to build their own Saudi Arabia.

[-] SnotFlickerman 19 points 1 year ago
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[-] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 107 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

there's a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is... uhh ... a really special form of religious virtue...

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I wish had no scruples because then I could sell people angels for $1,000

I love how the most devout Christians are always always complete shitheads

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Easy to forget that Bush and Reagan also had these Faith Based Initiative and religious themed cabinet positions. And they were also primarily about funneling state money to religious demagogues. And then Clinton/Obama kept them around because they didn't want to offend the religious extremists.

The large network of Crisis Intervention Centers that effectively exist to abuse young people with poor grades, substance abuse issues, and non-conforming gender/sexual preferences were all originally bankrolled by Reagan/Bush Era pilot programs and church kickbacks.

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[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 95 points 1 year ago

I'm all for the separation of Trump's head and body.

[-] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 84 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Time to get to work Satanic Temple.

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[-] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 68 points 1 year ago

All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what's coming next, just look at their website.

[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 29 points 1 year ago

Just wait until they start banning porn. It's already started in some states tbh.

Canada almost had the same thing happen, but thankfully Poilievre didn't win PM, and even lost his seat too as a bonus.

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[-] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 51 points 1 year ago

They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.

[-] BussyCat@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

What's that? Did I hear somebody say Beelzebub's Advanced Rifle Academy?

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

It’s already more successful

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

I cannot respect any "Christian" that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.

[-] shani66@ani.social 16 points 1 year ago

He's literally the antichrist. I'm not being hyperbolic, he fulfills most of the prophecies. I'm no christian, but it's honestly creepy.

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[-] skisnow@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago

A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.

The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve

That they can pretend to solve.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 35 points 1 year ago

I'd like to just forget about the church altogether

[-] nectar45@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 year ago

But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?

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[-] Daggity@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Well okay, trump is an adulterer and we have clear instructions about what we need to do about that.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the "rebels" in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.

I am hoping that America's new implementation of this "Christian state" proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.

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[-] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago

Oh lovely, a christian theocracy. How long before they start talking about having morality police?

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[-] WickedZebra66@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Isn't separating church and state really important?

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[-] freeman@feddit.org 22 points 1 year ago

Yesterday I watched the documentary "Hail Statan?", about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

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[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.

Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

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[-] cyphear@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago

The people who claim that America is a "Christian" nation don't ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

And Thomas Jefferson went out of his way to emphasis the separation of church and state.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 17 points 1 year ago

I'm starting to feel that Donald Trump might not entirely live up to the bar set by Thomas Jefferson.

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[-] chrischryse@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining...anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like "this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn't in teh constitution" like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It's literally stated in teh first amendment xD

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Well then Allah be praised!

/S

[-] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Something I'm confused about: if Republicans believe government policy should be based on Christian values, why are they against government programs helping the poor?

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[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Let's just forget about the right to bear arms

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[-] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Christian here.

Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.

[-] Balthazar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a "Christian" state.

[-] Australis13@fedia.io 16 points 1 year ago

This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there's no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.

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[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

Lmao this dickhead who probably can't recite a single Bible verse.

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