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[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 211 points 3 months ago

This person very clearly understands what is happening, hence the second sentence. It's just phrased in a way to not immediately cause magas to engage in their rejecting of reality at the site of criticism.

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 72 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I think more people need to approach it like this. Human's minds are designed to think with their group and resistant to change. If you actually want to change minds, insults and accusations will immediately put them into fight mode and they will defend their ideology. But if you don't attack their ideals and approach in a friendly kind of way, it will lead them to questioning their leader's choices. It's hard, I know. Their leader has made some shoot-themselves-in-the-foot choices and makes their conviction an easy target to attack. Insults and attacks may even be a way of letting off steam, but if you actually want change, it has to be a smart and kinder approach. It won't be an immediate change, but it will be gradual and large over time.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 68 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn't work becsuse they want to believe the propaganda they comsume. We won't win them over by being kinder. That only works on reasonable people who care about facts.

They can go fuck themselves.

[-] potoo22@programming.dev 12 points 3 months ago

You're not wrong, "Being reasonable" can be saying "you are wrong! And here's why..." and as you said, that doesn't work. And kindness doesn't work either. I suggest we be less confrontational when trying to help them understand other views. It's hard and nuisanced. It's like saying "I'm not against you, but you're choices and support are not working the way you think they are", but in a clever way that isn't so obvious.

Yeah, fuck these guys that are trampling over human right... but like, I also would like change to happen. Being reasonable and kind isn't working. Neither is aggression.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 11 points 3 months ago

And this attitude will only continue to cement their position against reason..congrats, you have fucked yourself

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago

Inviting the individual while painting them all with a broad brush is not helpful. Individuals can be reached.

You're right. Addressing the group doesn't work. So stop doing that.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 8 points 3 months ago

Well, i mean, someone has to and i have no other applicants, at the moment.

[-] BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago
[-] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 3 months ago
[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Whereas the normal fox news viewers are a bunch of dill weeds.

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[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 116 points 3 months ago

My bro in law sells boba tea supplies from Taiwan to all your favorite boba tea stores.

He had a container that he was about to send but cancelled it because his margin is less than 10% and his stores he supports also runs a lean margin.

Last week he decided to close one of his warehouses in Portland, letting go of 20 people and a few hundred stores that depend on him.

When asked why he doesn't just up the price, he said that if he did, the mass majority of the stores he supports won't make it and the Oregon warehouse is barely breaking even.

Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

[-] match@pawb.social 29 points 3 months ago

Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

what, like Oregon could've gone 70% democratic instead of 55%?

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago

He is registered in the outskirts of Clark County in NV. His vote counted there.

[-] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

His vote WOULD HAVE counted there, HAD THEY BOTHERED.

Emphasis mine.

[-] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

His vote, or more correctly, his choice not to vote, definitely still counted, just not in the way we would have preferred.

[-] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 months ago

Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.

ouch, this always hurts. I choose to still have empathy with him, even if he did make a extremely stupid decision.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 3 months ago

It's not like it would've made a difference in Oregon. There's like only a couple 100000 swing voters that really matter when it comes to the presidency. (Local issues might still make it worth coming out for tho).

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[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

he sat out this election

No sympathy. Dumbass got what he voted for, that he didn't care if Trump won and did exactly what he said he was going to do. So why the sudden change of heart? Selfish fuck only cares when it impacts him personally.

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[-] testfactor@lemmy.world 59 points 3 months ago

I think that was pretty clear sarcasm. A lot of people hate read/comment on Fox News.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 36 points 3 months ago

"Build the wall and Mexico will pay for it"

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 35 points 3 months ago

Cost to US consumer is $0? What kind of economy would that be lmao

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The economy of US propaganda where the US is so strong and either loved or feared and such an important market that everyone from all other countries will bow to them and ignore making a profit to appease the mighty Murica, because they are simply the greatest in the world.

Not to be confused with reality, where most of the world hates the US.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 months ago

American Exceptionalism!

I saw a similar thing in Britain during the Leave Campaign - lots of arguments of the "when we're out the EU will give us most of the rights members have, but without the obligations" kind, anchored only on British Exceptionalism, and enough people fell for it that Leave won.

Nationalist Delusions Of Grandeur is on hell of a drug.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

The UK already had that when they were in, but that was apparently not a good enough deal for them.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Being an EU member comes with both Rights and Obligations and the objective was to have the former without the latter.

In fact the Referendum was done because the UK wanted to not to have to obbey the Freedom Of Movement rules for EU citizens entering its country (i.e. the Obligation) whilst keeping it for its citizens entering other EU countries (i.e. the Right) and was using the threat of holding a Leave Referendum to try and blackmail the rest of the EU, and the rest of the EU said "No!"

(This was actually just the later of a long series of instances of the British Government using that technique to get from the rest of the EU "exceptions" from the EU treaties, which went all the way back to Thatcher's time and was how Britain had so many exceptions that nobody else had).

The British Exceptionalism part is that many Britons genuinelly expected they would get that (and also similarly for a lot of other Rights and Obligations, such as being able to import bleached chicken from the US at the same time as having open and uncontrolled access to the Free Market were such food products are forbidden) from the EU as part of the Leave Negotiations.

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[-] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Yearning for the 1950s when 70% of the world manufacturing base was rubble.

Gee look, they are orchastrating another world war where they can create those conditions again!

[-] Strawberry 11 points 3 months ago

These people don't understand that people in other countries are full human beings that don't worship at the altar of american exceptionalism

[-] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago

I'm pretty sure "Spice Melange" is trolling. Idk how someone would understand and enjoy the plot of Dune (assuming the book because IDK if they even used that term in the movies) with this poor of an understanding of how trade works.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

One of the book details not carried through to the movie is the Baron's plan to put Rabban in charge initially to fuck shit up and make everybody hate him, and then hand Arrakis over to Feyd-Rautha who would seem like a savior since he (supposedly) wouldn't be as big of a dick as Rabban. Trump-to-Vance may have a similar arc.

[-] zod000@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They definitely used the term in the Lynch movie, but if you can follow that plot you may be even smarter than a reader of the book heh

[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

He who controls the Spice controls the Universe.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

The cheatsheets they handed out in theaters in 1984 helped lol.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

There is a whole SouthPark episode about Tom Bradys poop where they repetitively use the term.

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[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 25 points 3 months ago

"Fox viewers are stupid" should hardly be news to anyone by now.

[-] aeternum 20 points 3 months ago

both ARE true.

[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 15 points 3 months ago

It's amazing is how they also talk about the profit motive being king... but then toss that out the window when they think they are like old school overlords demanding tribute from their underlings...

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[-] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

It’s both.

[-] Sibshops@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago

I feel like the comment is being sarcastic. Republicans would never admit the possibility of something negative about Trump.

[-] lorty@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 months ago

Honestly the fact that this fake news got going makes no sense to me. If you even atop for a second to think about how tarrifs are collected you'd know this would never be the case

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

stop for a second to think

I think maybe I see the problem.

[-] sowitzer@lemm.ee 5 points 3 months ago

He built a wall and Mexico paid for it. They remember that clearly, so what he says 10 years later must be true. Anyone surprised maga people believing this is surprising. lol.

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 3 months ago

I mean Sony and Humble Bundle do actually push those price increases onto others. They maintain their prices in the US, but raise them in Europe. A Humble Bundle subscription now includes IGN??? I'm sure there are other examples.
The logical thing to do is of course boycotting the companies that do, but since I'm not their customer there isn't anything really I can do. Besides I am mostly just pirating stuff these days. Being able to afford food is somehow more important.

[-] CrayonRosary@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago
[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Thing is, we’ve seen it at least a few times. Nintendo, for instance, did not increase the Switch 2 price. Many companies are afraid of adding a “tariff tax” label on goods.

I personally don’t understand it. What I’ve heard is that part of the issue is when companies are in many fields, the government could choose to retaliate on any of them. Reject their H1B visas when they set higher product prices, for instance.

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