Nothing will kill art itself, GenAI will simply be incorporated as another tool

Killing the ability to make money from art AND the bs that corporations are pulling in regards to AI, profit and making line go up is what people are mad about, but that anger is constantly misplaced leading to lines of thought like this lol

I think the argument is that an AI "artist" is incapable of creating art. Their "tool" does the work for them. Whereas other artists use digital tools but as just that - tools. The art comes from the artist.

This pretty well encapsulates my feelings, except for the issue of training the models. AI is cool tech, but the fact remains that people are making money off of scraped content. Not to mention the environmental aspect.

Honestly I find it difficult to reconcile.

In a perfect world, we would have open source models trained on public domain and properly licensed content.

I don’t think AI is going to replace artists any time soon. On the personal side, people create for the joy of it, whatever that means to them. On the professional side, people have a hard enough time communicating what they want to an actual person, much less a computer.

As someone that likely has moderate aphantasia, I really struggle with describing what I want. Being able to tell an image gen to make so many variations of X, and then commission a friend to take inspiration from Y and Z to make something original is really freeing for both sides, imo.

I’ve never gotten exactly what I’m looking for, but it almost always gives me something to point to, without doing a bunch of test drafts. I suppose that’s technically taking work away from the artist, but so does having an ‘undo’ button in procreate.

Idk, it’s a more complex issue than many make it out to be. I’m still further on the fuck ai side than not, just due to its current implementations.

End rant.

The thing is, an AI 'artist' isn't making art. They are generating images with no real meaning or effort put into them.

Archaeologists:

Archaeologists will just call it a ritualistic artifact. Like they already do with every piece of ancient porn they find.

arouse

Drawing boobs is second only to the instinct to draw cocks.

*Scalies

Wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

If all it takes to be a “real artist” is drawing proficiently

I think you are miss-understanding the argument.

Pro-AI folk say that being anti-AI, as a digital artist, is hypocrisy because you also used a computer. Here it is shown that, despite not using a computer, the artist is still able to create their art, because there is more to the visual arts than the tools you have to make it. This puts rest to the idea that using digital art tools is somehow hypocritical with being against AIGen.

The argumentor is not saying that not knowing how to draw proficiently excludes being an artist. They are just saying that real artist do not need a computer program to create their arts, much like performances or installation artists you mentioned.

It isn't saying that drawing is the only art form, just that having the ability to create art from scratch is what makes someone an artist. Drawing was an example, performance art, music, and other forms of art are also criteria for being an artist.

Hell, you don't even have to be proficient if you are able to create art that conveys something.

every ai artist who has also learned to draw is a real artist

Yes, they are an artist if they are able to create art although the label only matters in reference to the things they create. It doesn't mean everything they do is art.

Using AI prompts is like using a web search to find art someone else created, it isn't creating art. Does writing down an idea for a book make someone an author? No, it does not.

Also, if you stick a stamp on it and mail it… straight to jail.

Here as in... They internet?

That's where the fire is stored

Non-mammals lacking mammary glands?! Say it ain't so.

And the first thing that came to mind after typing that? Lobster-titties

It's not a lizard.

It's a dragon.

Dragons could have boobs, I've never seen one.

Have you ever seen a giant, flying, fire breathing dragon IRL that didn't have boobs?

Yes.

Art is made by living things. Until AI is alive it cannot make art. Current models don't fit the bill. That's not saying that a far more advanced future AI couldn't make art, but at present AI can't make art.