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[-] ShopCanadianStuff@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 days ago

The shock to me is that Kamala Harris is in the poll at all. What rallies is she hosting? Is she even making any media appearances? I wouldn't be surprised though if the DNC pull out the super delegates to say AOC has lost day 1 if there is even going to be a 2028 election at all.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Does it matter tho?

Y'all know that if they say vote Kamala, y'all will vote Kamala, like it or not

And the "democrats" know that y'all will vote blue no matter who anyways

[-] TylerBourbon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Ok look I voted for Kamala but if a candidate fails can we please run someone one else? You don't run the same person over again because the same people who felt like she was forced down their throats are still going feel like she's being forced down their throats.

And the same bs that was used against her will be used again. But people eat yhay shit up which is why it works.

And her tactics of bring out appealing to Republicans again is probably whay she'll do again and that's going to lose more dem voters.

The corporate Dems need to go away.

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[-] NovaOG@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago

Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

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[-] carrion0409@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

Please god give us AOC in 2028. Shes the FDR 2 we need when this is all over.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

FDR threw 100,000 Americans into concentration camps because of their race. Trump is FDR 2.

[-] tombrandis@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago

Wait why is Harris even running again? I don't think she's that bad but I can't vote in US elections - the electorate rejected her.

[-] anon@lemmus.org 19 points 2 days ago

Tim Walz is a white dude. Democrats need to stop fucking around. We're back to a place in history where women nor people of color are winning a presidential election. It's the unfortunate truth.

[-] wesley@yall.theatl.social 14 points 2 days ago

I don't agree with this take. Most of the people who wouldn't vote for a woman of color for that reason wouldn't vote for Dems in the first place.

The failure of Kamala and Hillary was in trying to pander to the so-called moderate swing voter crowd which largely doesn't exist.

Refusing to run a strong woman candidate to appease racists is not how you win.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I don’t agree with this take. Most of the people who wouldn’t vote for a woman of color for that reason wouldn’t vote for Dems in the first place.

They know. It's just an excuse to shut out progressives.

[-] piefood@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Obama is one of the most popular presidents in my lifetime. Hillary won the popular vote. The problem wasn't being a woman or a person of color, their problem was being shitty candidates that the public doesn't like, running terrible campaigns.

[-] GhostTheToast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Dems just need to have a primary. In a perfect world, some kind of ranked choice or popular vote. AOC wins the primary, great. If Walz wins, also great. We just need a primary dude

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[-] futatorius@lemm.ee 30 points 2 days ago

A poll looking 3 years ahead is about as accurate as an astrological chart (and just to be clear, those are worthless).

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[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

AOC would receive my vote.

[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago

I'd vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn't excited about it.

[-] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So the "democrats" have no incentive to improve in your case

You'll just vote whoever they choose on the ballot

[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 1 points 19 hours ago

Yes. If that vote helps at all in preventing something like Trump happening again.

[-] TronBronson@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

She's an amazing candidate. I'd vote for her. I dunno about the rest of the country tho. They seem to really appreciate white men when it comes time to vote. All other issues be damned.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 184 points 3 days ago

The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

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[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 59 points 3 days ago

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago
  1. Stop with this shit. It's 2025. This is stupid.

  2. Women can't be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That's a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that's reality.

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[-] computerscientistII@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago

Is this wise? As an outside observer I had the impression that Harris lost in part because of systematic, subtle and overt racism and sexism. All this applies to AOC, too. Do the Democrats want to lose? Don't they have some sort of JFK look-alike, people actually want to vote? It's not as if appearance wasn't way more important in the US than things like the actual political agenda.

[-] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As another outside observer I'd disagree that was the reason she lost. Yeah there's racism and sexism issues in the US, but in the last US election both AOC and Bernie got a lot of votes to elect them as senators on the senator ballot from people who also voted Trump on the presidential ballot.

AOC and Bernie did some polls on social media asking these people why they voted for both them and Trump. The responses were typically like "you're not part of the political elite" and "you say it how it is" and "you seem like you genuinely care about Americans".

IMO, Kamala is considered too close to the democratic political establishment and that the American public is desperately craving some more (mostly economically) progressive politics which AOC and Bernie have been talking about for years.

If the DNC run Kamala in 2028 then the Trump administration will project it as "Biden, Harris, and the elites want to be president forever, so why not pick me instead".

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[-] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 83 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago

yeah, zero interest in supporting kamala "keep arming isreal" fucking harris again.

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[-] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Is there even going to be another election?

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[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 365 points 3 days ago

If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn't.

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 199 points 3 days ago

I'm shocked that Harris is in first place...

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