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[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 363 points 2 months ago

I think Xi might have figured out Trump’s secret. He has no fucking clue what he’s doing. He scares people into reacting by being reckless, then claims a win for getting a reaction.

Ignoring trolls takes their power away.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 183 points 2 months ago

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

("Quand l'ennemi fait un faux mouvement, il faut se garder de l'interrompre" --Napoleon)

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 55 points 2 months ago

They're not really ignoring him though. They've discontinued exports of rare earth and are dumping debt. It's a calculated strategic response to capitalise on an epic mistake.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 months ago

This only works if you're China. Most other countries would just be ignored

[-] bravesirthomas@lemm.ee 38 points 2 months ago

Not really, he backed down on tariffs last week thanks to Canada and Japan. The truth is, Trump has put the US into a very, very precarious position. They have a lot of debt to refinance soon, and if the rest of the world wanted to, they could dramatically increase the interest rates paid on that by coordinating a sell-off of US debt.

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[-] CPMSP@midwest.social 219 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's business school from a guy who ran casinos into the ground. Nice work America.

[-] spinne@sh.itjust.works 125 points 2 months ago

It's true. "Casinos," plural. CASINOS PLURAL, EVERYBODY.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 months ago

y'all are spelling 'russian money laundering operations' wrong.

[-] moody@lemmings.world 34 points 2 months ago

Even worse. How does one bankrupt a Russian money laundering operation? You'd think they would do their best to keep that shit running.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago

I think they intentionally go out of business before the Feds have a chance to investigate it.

[-] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

They were actually fined for undeclared foreign transactions, but it was during their bankruptcy so it got mostly ignored by history

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[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago

I thought the consensus was that was money laundering?

[-] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

I found this https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/22/politics/trump-taj-mahal/index.html

So it’s at least alleged and they paid to settle. But wouldn’t you want to keep your laundry working? Idk

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[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 164 points 2 months ago
[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

It's called not being an utter moron.

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

I love how everyone just sort of glazes over how astoundingly unpopular Steam was when it was first introduced.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

I was one of them. They proved my fears unfounded (so far). They've also managed to convert me to a fanboy at some point. I realised I was playing a co-op game brought off steam, on my steam deck, via a steam link to the TV, and the wife using a steam controller.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 103 points 2 months ago

The best next step:

China does nothing (keeps their tariffs)

[-] takeda@lemm.ee 53 points 2 months ago

That's very possible. Trump gave them excuse to do this. They already set up a deal with Korea and Japan (and each two hate each other), and if they would set up a trade deal with EU then the US will be the only loser.

Trump really hurt US with the tariffs on everyone (except Russia, North Korea and Belarus)

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

best deal in the history of deals

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[-] thejoker954@lemmy.world 99 points 2 months ago

What a fucked up world where we are cheering on China. Fucking trump.

[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

They both suck.

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[-] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 84 points 2 months ago
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[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 75 points 2 months ago
[-] Trihilis@ani.social 20 points 2 months ago
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[-] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 73 points 2 months ago

Then everyone dumps on him, and he says the roll back was fake news and it's still happening, but nobody even in the administration knows what's going on.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 46 points 2 months ago

but nobody even in the administration knows what's going on.

"Least of all the horse."

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[-] rustbuckett@lemmings.world 61 points 2 months ago
[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Bankruptcy never tasted so good?

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[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago

Big flex from China. I'm waiting for a country to call trump's bluff by putting an export tax on their own goods sent to the USA.

[-] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago

Canada should have done this on everything. If the Americans can afford the tariff then there is room for us to charge more. Not really but yeah should do it.

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[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 39 points 2 months ago

Didn't this happen last time? Less dramatically, but still.

He puts in a bunch of tariffs. China reciprocates. The market is thrown into chaos. He shouts and screams. China ignores him. He backtracks. China ends the tariffs but doesn't do anything to try and appease him. He claims it's a victory. His fluffers say the tariffs were just to bring China to the table, which justifies the hit to the market, despite the fact China didn't come to the table and President Pigshit didn't articulate what China could actually give him to end the tariffs.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Yes, but this time he also decided to tariff the whole world.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

That is The Art of the Deal. But the Chinese version.

[-] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 months ago

That's just Sun Tzu Art of War

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[-] huppakee@lemm.ee 36 points 2 months ago

Wish somebody told him he didn't have the cards.

[-] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 40 points 2 months ago

The cards are made in China

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[-] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago
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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 27 points 2 months ago

... Trump keeps begging for China deal while bragging about phone calls kissing his ass. No foreign meetings. No envoy sent to China.
China limits US studio film releases
Bessent says Tariffs are no joke. China must make a deal.
Chinese airlines refuse Boeing+parts deliveries (reported as "China orders", but leopards were not going to make US aerospace affordable at 125% tariffs.

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Say what you will about China’s political system. At least it is much more of a meritocracy. The politicians who climb up the ranks are the ones who have a proven record of achievements.

In the US the people can elect a charlatan with no experience whatsoever, i.e. an outsider, and some will spin this as a good thing. Would you hire an outsider doctor or plumber?

Edit: since people are failing to understand the idea. Remember how Republicans mocked Obama for being a community organizer? Imagine the opposite, any president must have some demonstrable experience as a community organizer. It is not a panacea, Obama still committed war crimes and was beholden to moneyed interests but much much much more qualified than Trump could ever be. Merit doesn’t mean the person will be good but that they will be qualified.

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[-] schnokobaer@feddit.org 21 points 2 months ago

THE ART OF THE DEAL

[-] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

There is a total of 350 million Americans. Fuck every single one of them for not stopping fascism from taking their government.

I don't care if you felt like you did your part, it wasn't enough. It was on you, now it is on all of us. Fuck Americans.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago

The problem is that no one is at the breaking point yet. You can still go to work, buy things, have a family day, and if you're a US citizen, you feel safe.

Now, will that change? Yes, it will. Then maybe enough people will wake up, but until then... no one is going to risk death or getting their families killed. No mass organized resistance to join. Don't act like it wouldn't happen to your country either because it can.

It's not easy to just saddle up against the greatest superpower to ever exist on Earth.

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