Those guys will say almost anything for their weekly free money.
"Faith-based health care provider" is one of the saddest euphemisms I've heard in a while.
There is zero point in ever listening to what a conservative is saying. It changes based on whatever they think is beneficial to them in that exact moment. They're like the demons from Frieren.
but will they make it right in the end by giving her a new fetus (from someone who died in a fire).
I say, let them rip what they sowed.
"Reap", as in the grim reaper. You "reap" what you sow
No!, I say Rip, not reap.
Hey hey now. Dont be bashful. You and your ilk has screamed that it does. In your eyes, you killed a person. You can't switch when its uncomfortable for you.
Unfortunately, they can and will.
Just dig up their past statements. They've definitely said shit on abortion before, they're religious they can't help it.
religion has never been about truth or consistency, it's a matter of power
Hypocrisy is a defining feature of Abrahamic religion.
I would love to have the judge question them directly on the sanctity of human life and how it does not apply in this case but applies to abortion.
Hell, if we can get a hold of the plaintiff and ask them to lose the case so that we can build case law off of the ruling, we might be able to get the Catholic church on record as saying abortion should be legalized.
No, they'll just say it's only valid if they do it, like an annulment vs. a divorce
Annulment usually implies that the marriage was never consummated. Annulments exist outside of religion as well.
Them losing doesn't guarantee anything if it isn't well argued. They need to try to win and put up the best defence. If they fail then there will be a solid case to take it further if they throw it, higher courts will look at it and the arguments and see that it doesn't apply.
Tells you what this is really about.
Could this case set a precedent if they win? Will that allow abortion to become legal?
No, Trump would immediately sign an executive order even though its supposed to be beyond his powers and anyone with a lick of status will bend over like they were just struck with the rod of God.
No.
Like, it could be a brick in the road, but it won't.
Rules for thee and not for me
I mean they cover up child rape . Totally on brand for them and most religious organizations
CURIOUS
Catholic Health Initiatives-Iowa, a faith-based health care provider
A what?
It's who provides medicine in America. Why do you think our media depicts healers as clerics and priests.
Fr. John gives a hell of a sermon alongside his trademark appendectomy
It is a left over system where hospitals were basically run by nuns and churches. Originally done in good faith as there wasn't any other option, so nuns would double as nurses, staff, etc. That is basically how Mayo clinic started. It is outdated now but many of those hospitals combined to form CHI, Dignity... Some are huge systems.
CHI is an absolute nightmare to deal with. They will send you to collections almost immediately, they can't answer any questions about your bills, and seem to routinely fuck them up so bad I've had lawyers send them letters twice to get problems resolved.
Getting the same service from the university medical system in my area suddenly fixed all of the billing issues. Where I was paying out the ass after insurance, suddenly the patient responsibility dropped to damn near 0.
The 'Catholic' part is just a veneer. It's a for profit medical institution that's uses religious conviction as another avenue for profit.
I don't know why I'm still surprised by the hypocrisy at this point.
The Bible does say in several places that life begins at the first breath.
The bible also gives you a recipe that will induce abortion, yet here we fucking are.
The Bible says a lot of things, you think they’ll listen?
Never heard that before, what do i search for? Would love to have this info in my back pocket for when needed
Whoops, meant to reply to spooky2092 who said there's a recipe to induce abortion in the Bible
Numbers 5:11-31 It details how a husband can "test" his wife with the Bitter Water-if she miscarries it was a bastard, if she's "innocent" it doesn't do anything. The version I saw has "16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water". Presumably this is the recipe though there's probably other versions with some more details.
Thanks. That's wild
Depending on the interoperation you could argue it starts much later
“Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I appointed you a prophet to the nations.” Jeremiah 1:4-5
"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free."
Ephesians 6:5-8
What's your point?
Well, that almost feels like hypocrisy, doesn’t it?
A hypocrisy is you
Maybe get out of the healthcare industry if you're not willing to provide care for patients' health.
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