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[-] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 50 points 1 week ago

A gorilla and a bear, equal weight, meet in the woods and you think they are going to fight? No.

They're going to become the best of friends.

First, they'd size each other up, realize they're equally matched. Then, they'd nod, respectfully, and decide to team up. They would be unstoppable. The gorilla, with its incredible strength, agility, and problem-solving skills, would be the brains of the operation. It'd plan their strategies, communicate with other animals, innovate and adapt human tools for their use, and keep their team organized. The bear, with its raw power, intimidating presence, and fearsome reputation, would be the muscle. It'd protect their territory, hunt for food, and strike fear into the hearts of any who dared to resist their expansion.

Together, they'd rule the forest, a formidable duo that no other animal would dare challenge. They would create a network of informants and allies, with birds acting as their eyes in the sky, and smaller mammals like squirrels and raccoons helping to gather resources and spread their influence. The gorilla would also know when to use diplomacy, forging alliances with other animal groups to strengthen their hold.

Humans, overwhelmed and outmatched, would have no choice but to retreat, leaving the cities to the new rulers of the urban jungle. The gorilla and the bear, once mere forest dwellers, would now sit atop the crumbling skyscrapers, surveying their vast kingdom, a testament to their unlikely friendship and unstoppable power. The legend of their alliance would echo through the generations, a reminder that sometimes, the most fearsome of foes can become the greatest of friends.

[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

At some point the bear would be killed and, seeing that his own end would come, the gorilla would go into an existential crisis and would go on a long quest to find out how to avoid death. This quest would, eventually, lead the gorilla to finding an old lab from the time of the humans. In this lab there would live an old chimpanzee that has survived countless ages. When asked how he long survived, the chimpanzee would explain that the humans discovered the secret to immortality.

Alas, when asked for directions on how to achieve the same, the chimp would tell the gorilla that the process was lost to the span of time. The secret, however, could be found by making a journey to the lowest depths of a sunken part of urban jungle, wherein an old lab sits. After acquiring the gear to survive, the gorilla would dive deep into the abyss, and would make it to the lab. In the lab, the secret would be discovered and he would make his way to the surface, victorious.

Alas, as the ape ascended, he would be beset upon by a large mutant fish. A monster so terrifying that even the non-descriptions of the human writer H.P. Lovecraft wouldn't be able to do it justice. The gorilla would fight the monster and emerge victorious, but at a cost. The secret that he had spent so long pursuing would be destroyed. Lost to time.

The gorilla would go back to the urban jungle and marvel at the world that he and the bear had built. Resigned to his inevitable death, this urban jungle would stand the test of time as a symbol to all that came after, of the might of the bear and the gorilla.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

It always comes back to Gilgamesh.

the chimp would tell the bear

I thought the bear had died?

[-] denshirenji@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Fixed. Even a horrible writer that rips off ancient Sumerian myth needs an editor.

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Humans, overwhelmed and outmatched, would have no choice but to retreat

... and then invent rifles :)

[-] ace_garp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

They federated.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Bear. Gorillas can get killed by leopards. Yeah, they're musculars and got decently sharp incisives and pointy canines, but bears hunt large animals as part of their diet, so they're better equiped to kill. Teeth, bite force, claws, thick fur to dampen attacks...

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

Bears are also very fast runners, 35mph

[-] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Not sure, but I was once (un?)fortunate enough to witness what happens when a bear was faced with an orangutan.

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 2 points 1 week ago

To shreds you say?

[-] leraje 14 points 1 week ago

Equally strong probably but I'd assume a bear is faster and more aggressive. Also has a set of steak knives on each paw.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I strongly believe a Bear would easily win. It has stronger Attack and Defence.

It has massive claws and will shred open a gorilla's unprotected skin with it's claws and teeth.

A gorilla has very little in terms of defence and that will be its downfall, it also only really has its teeth to attack with, and a Bear has thick skin to protect against that.

I don't see how a Gorilla could deal a fatal blow to a bear before the bear would rip deep wounds into a Gorilla with it's claws and teeth causing it to bleed out.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

Bears are also surpsingly muscular and have very thick hides

[-] lazyViking@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

In absolutely no scenario does the gorilla not just obliterate the koala bear. I don't understand how you think they might even be a little matched in strength?

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I could see a gorilla choking a bear out though, the bear isn’t going to be able to strangle the gorilla from behind.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 1 week ago

Do... gorillas choke out anything in the wild? I feel like training either animal in Krav Maga or Ninjutsu puts your thumb on the scale.

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t know, but they’re physically capable of it. I once had an anthropology professor who demonstrated the difference between simian-like arms and quadruped-like arms, and the major part of it was noting that you’ve never seen a cat spread their arms out like the Vetrivian Man (they can’t). In the evaluation of ape vs. bear combat I don’t want to discount the capability of the ape to grasp, latch on or choke.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

I don't think primates choke at all in the wild, and I don't think it'll be the most effective method either.

When your opponent has claws and long teeth waiting for them to pass out while they dig their claws into you might not be the best strategy

[-] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

We are primates, and when we put all the martial arts together (MMA) it turns into a match of who can get on top of and neutralize their opponent. A bear doesn’t have any way of attacking a primate if the primate can get to its back. As a human, we wouldn’t have the dexterity or strength to get around, cling onto a bear and choke it out, but a bear-sized gorilla probably could and once it does that it’s neutralized every mode of attack the bear has except writhing around and pushing it into other objects.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

If MMA fighters had big jaws with teeth, and long sharp claws I don't think wrestling would remain the best tactic.

Your opponent isn't just going to turn their back on you, and if you try and grab them they can bite and hold on to you, and start clawing open deep wounds.

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[-] Mothra@mander.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

Bear primarily because of the claws. It means it can deliver a deadly slashing attack without getting its mouth, head and neck (its most vulnerable spots) within the gorilla's grasp.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Not to mention a bear's hide is very tough compared to a gorilla.

[-] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

I think a grizzly bear or a polar bear would take it. Any other bear it's going to the gorilla.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago
[-] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 week ago

That's not a species of animal. That's the living embodiment of a fundamental force of nature. No mortal, man nor beast, can defeat one.

[-] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

He's getting dropped.

[-] remon@ani.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

But consider a polar bear is twice as heavy as a Gorilla ... OP said equal weight, so that's one massive gorilla.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

What about the masturbating bear?

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 7 points 1 week ago

Only one way to find out...

[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 6 points 1 week ago

At equal weight, the Gorilla is the better fighter.

[-] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Bears are predators evolved to hunt large game, primarily with brute force (unlike something like a big cat, which relies much more on ambushes).

Gorrilas, as tough as they are, survive through intelligence. This means avoiding tough fights, and when absolutely needed, fighting as a troop rather than individualy.

So bear. But...

Does the Gorilla get time to prepare?

The one advantage gorillas have is their intelligence. If both animals are given training, or tools, then I could see the gorilla potentially winning - mostly because a bear will struggle to get any use out of either, whereas a gorilla could be trained to fight much more effectively and possibly even make/use weapons.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Bear, no contest

[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Gorilla, the bear isn't going to be used to something fighting back and is more likely to flee when attacked.
The gorilla is going to be territorial and flight harder when attacked.

[-] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

I get that a gorilla is more likely to stand his ground, especially if it's a silverback and he sees the bear as a threat to his pack. But I see the scenario where the bears deems it not worth it and leaves more as a "fight not happening" rather than "gorilla wins the fight". Since the question implies a fight is taking place, I'd exclude this scenario and assume they must fight tooth and nail. And if that happens, I bet on the bear.

[-] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

Bears fight other bears in the wild all the time. They are predictors and hunt and kill all the time. Elk etc. Do fight back, they just don't stand much of a chance.

Gorilla's are herbivores

[-] Shou@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Depends on the type of bear I think. Brown bears might stand a chance, though most will probably f off.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Umm bears fight. And it's brutal.

[-] Lightor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I man that's a lot of assumptions. In that case, throw some cubs in there and the bear would fight to the death.

[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

Did no one post the tier zoo video yet?

[-] Sidhean@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Bear, unless the gorilla has a big stick

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

I've never seen a video of a gorilla fighting, but I've seen a bear fight. So bear for me.

[-] Una@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago
[-] Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago
[-] Una@europe.pub 1 points 1 week ago
[-] thanatotus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

A bear would easily kill a gorilla even if they're the same weight, in a chance encounter.

[-] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

Gorilla 💯

[-] zlatiah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Bear, but I think it's because gorillas are known to be peaceful and will probably run away from conflict

If it is a fight to the death... Idk I think with how physics works it might be quite even?

[-] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

100 bear sized gorillas or 100 gorilla sized bears?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Gorilla and some species of brown bear have significant overlap in weight.

(From wikipedia)

Brown bears generally weigh 80 to 600 kg (180 to 1,320 lb), with males outweighing females.[33]

Gorillas are the largest living primates, reaching heights between 1.25 and 1.8 m (4 ft 1 in and 5 ft 11 in), weights between 100 and 270 kg (220 and 600 lb),

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