It's Women's Fault : memes

[-] XM34@feddit.org 90 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh wow, another meme completely disregarding a problem many are struggeling with. But don't worry guys and gals, it's okay because it's making fun of mens' suffering. And men can't be discriminated against.

On another note, has anyone figured out yet, why men are never emotionally available? It truly is a mystery 🤔

/s in case you can't tell.

[-] Slowter1134@lemmy.world 40 points 3 months ago

Silly men just need to understand that saying "I'm lonely" and "women belong in the kitchen" are equivalent. So don't you dare ever talk or reach out if you're lonely.

It's a real shame that male loneliness is so quickly dismissed because it would be a great starting point to begin talking about how traditional male friendships tend to keep each other at a distance, and maybe come up with ways to bridge the gap so existing friendships can become deeper.

Instead it feels like the conversation just gets to this point where we all collectively shrug and say, "shame" and never really talk about it more than this.

[-] FatTony@lemmy.world 29 points 3 months ago

"I'm lonely."

"Well, you probably deserve it then."

[-] RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

There is a difference between thinking someone deserves it and them probably needing to do some introspection.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 months ago

In my career, I have had a lot of contacts with Saudi Arabian men. I’ve sometimes been a bit jealous of the ease and familiarity of their male-male friendships in that culture.

They generally have no qualms about just hanging an arm over a friends shoulder and just keeping it there for a protracted side-hug, seemingly without a thought.

Sure, there are other aspects of the culture that give me pause, but the easy familiarity is something that I think is beautiful.

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[-] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 80 points 3 months ago

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[-] carotte 28 points 3 months ago

yes, the few hundred people on tumblr who hate all men are just as bad as the incel influencers making millions every year who have sympathizers in many governments

fuck off

[-] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 months ago

tumblr? Seems like a cool place to me.

I'm talking about people with these beliefs in positions of power and influence abusing that power and ruining people's lives.

Just like OP.

[-] carotte 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

edit: I was being an ass. ill shut up now

in positions of power

WHERE??? incels are running the US government, what power do your man-haters even have???

[-] anindefinitearticle@sh.itjust.works 18 points 3 months ago

The power to ostracize and bully me out of a job for daring to get sexually assaulted by my female boss while being intersex-presenting-male, then continue to bully and ostracize me for the following seven years, fully destroying my life.

[-] TheFudd@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

Not-so-fun fact: If you call the domestic abuse hotline as a male who's experiencing violence at the hands of a woman, they will just hang up on you.

Source: I was in a physically abusive relationship and tried to call the domestic abuse hotline for advice, and they hung up on me.

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 21 points 3 months ago

What's the toxic female equivalent of Andrew Tate?

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[-] nl4real@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

GamerGate-tier slop. "tumblristas" or whatever have nowhere near the level of influence, power or damage to society as the manosphere. When was the last time you read about one shooting up a school?

[-] TheFudd@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

GamerGate-tier slop. “tumblristas” or whatever have nowhere near the level of influence, power or damage to society as the manosphere.

By that logic, if someone punches you with brass knuckles then you have no right to complain because brass knuckles have nowhere near the level of power or damage-dealing ability to a person as a gun does.

[-] nl4real@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

What? Saying one thing is on a different level is not the same as saying the other doesn't exist.

[-] TheFudd@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

What? Saying one thing is on a different level is not the same as saying the other doesn’t exist.

Well, a big part of men's problem here is plenty of people do say that in one way or another - That men's problems in this regard "don't exist".

I've experienced domestic violence before. She preferred to knock the shit out of me when I was sleeping. I don't care how strong you think you are, you aren't able to protect yourself when you are asleep.

I have flat-out had people tell me that "men cannot be abused by women, just like how a woman can't r-pe a man" when I've told people about the situation.

How else am I to interpret that, other than "your problems don't exist"?

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[-] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 60 points 3 months ago

there is a ~~male~~ loneliness epidemic

FTFY

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 37 points 3 months ago

I think it's phrased like this because it's less acceptable for men to express feelings like sadness or loneliness. men and boys who are lonely and alienated can more easily fall down the Andrew Tate/4Chan/Jordan Peterson/blackpill pipeline which yields violent extremist behavior. Obviously it's not only men

[-] mmddmm@lemm.ee 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, it's because despite the problem being the same for everybody, the "treatment" has to be very different. So it's better if you break it down into two different epidemics.

And one gets more attention because every single well known and applied procedure to fight the epidemics don't work for them.

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[-] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"All lives matter"

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[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 46 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that’s not at all what the male loneliness thing is about at all. Was the point of your meme to make fun of how ignorant people are about this particular issue for men or were you trying to suggest the issue is invalid and the result of misogynistic assholes? Because if it’s the latter I think you just demonstrated your own ignorance and should probably spend some time trying to empathize more with men and educate yourself.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 months ago

Par for the course for cm0002 to drop a devisive clickbait "meme" for engagement and disappear. I understand we want Lemmy to grow, but is this actually the kind of content we want churned out?

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[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

A second person I can ask. What's the epidemic then? If it's not men failing to meet some pretty basic standards for empathy and kindness, what is it?

[-] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Not the person you replied to.

That's easy it's not not wanting to come off as a creep. Where do you meet them? I have been told you cannot approach women in the bar, work, gym, through hobbies etc. Only place that is okay is dating apps and they are awful for so many reasons for everyone involved.

You don't want to be creepy so you don't approach people. Then you get people calling you creepy for being lonley.

[-] sykaster@feddit.nl 16 points 3 months ago

I don't think the main message is not approaching women anywhere. I think the main message is actually making friends before making a move. Not just asking someone out.

I've had 2 relationships and am in a happt marriage going on 10 years, and each one started by being friendly and sharing interests, because then it's natural to go do something together sometime.

Don't overcomplicate it, just be friendly and make it natural to spend time together.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Ahhh, yes. Intentionally being on "the hunt". It's a shitty model, it rarely works, and I don't understand why it persists.

This is part of the fallacy that men are fed.

I should probably make a video on the subject, but I doubt people would listen. But the way to meet women is the same way you meet new male friends. How do you do that?

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[+] softcat@lemmy.ca 33 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 30 points 3 months ago

There are multiple ways to get to the loneliness stage. The meme identifies one way that is self inflicted which starts with misogyny and spirals from there.

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[-] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 3 months ago

Yeah, it’s more than just incels suffering.

[-] i_dont_want_to 11 points 3 months ago

Very true. But when it comes to loneliness, I've heard far more about "the male loneliness epidemic."

The male loneliness epidemic is often cited to me and used to silence women/NB folks when we try to discuss our safety and support groups. It is supposedly women's (and other not-men's fault) that men are lonely.

I just searched it up and apparently NPR has something about it now. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/17/1263527043/its-been-a-minute-male-loneliness-epidemic-real

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[-] Carvex@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

But I comment to other people on the internet, that's close enough

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[-] user607674@lemm.ee 30 points 3 months ago

The comments on this one really highlights Lemmy's demographics. You can take the men out of reddit but you can't take the reddit out of men lmao

[-] prole 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yeah, I dunno if it was the recent migration or what, but I'm not a fan of the direction that lemmy seems to be headed. This was one of the few online discussion spaces that hadn't been poisoned by right-wing ideology and it seems like that might no longer be the case.

Yes I know about blocking, I just don't like doing it.

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[-] hmonkey@lemy.lol 24 points 3 months ago

I doubt the first 3 statements are the same person as the fourth in most cases

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[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The people speaking about male loneliness epidemics aren't the incels right? I think trying to understand the problems related to masculinity in society is exactly the opposite, trying to combat incels and the like. It has nothing to do with blaming women (at least in my experience)

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 18 points 3 months ago

I know this guy who is absolutely ridiculous about this.

On one hand, he can't stand women's groups, gets upset about women's sports, can't stop dismissing anything that isn't solely masculine like yoga, dance, and even rages on women artists and musicians.

On the other hand, has BEGGED OUT LOUD to people (I'm not even his friend) to get him connected with "chicks".

I have no idea how to tell this guy he's a miserable hateful fuck who will die alone because of his own personality.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 months ago

I've seen this """""meme""""" four times in the last week.

We get it, it's low quality bait. Move along.

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[-] Cocopanda@futurology.today 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

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[-] h4x0r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 3 months ago

~~memes~~ persecutioncomplextriggers

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