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[-] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Could you please define exactly what you mean by "left-wing"?

[-] IndieSpren 99 points 1 week ago
[-] Forester@pawb.social 71 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

This is the fediverse it's full of new people, adventurers, change makers. The majority of people who would be interested in this platform will have a more progressive bent. So the majority of people here will be more accepting of liberal policies.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 79 points 1 week ago

Quibble: Many here are explicitly leftist, in the a leftist-not-liberal sense, and will even use "liberal" derogatorily. So, progressive, yes, but liberal, not necessarily.

[-] libra00@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Good point, many think left = liberal = US democrats who are centrists at best from the international perspective. So no, most people on here probably aren't actual leftists, but I'm guessing when they say they 'lean left' they mean US-liberal-not-conservative, not socialist or whatever.

[-] Forester@pawb.social 9 points 1 week ago

From my perspective I think that that is very silly. I don't care for purity tests, but what would I know? I'm just a dirty libertarian.

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 60 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Most people everywhere are slightly left of centre*. Most leaders everywhere are slightly right of centre*.

*Not in the American sense. Y'all crazy.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago

Not only that, I’ve tried pitching the fediverse to right wing people, but they didn’t bite.

Even the crypto bros that were all about decentralization couldn’t see why a decentralized social media platform was superior.

This also didn’t matter for people who care about “free speech”.

You think the allure of being fully independent and having your own instance would be right up their alley given how they value independence, but nope.

Seriously? Why isn’t there a right wing instance? My guess is that a right wing person can’t fathom owning something that benefits others which doesn’t give them back profit.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 week ago

You think the allure of being fully independent and having your own instance would be right up their alley given how they value independence, but nope.

Because it's not about freedom of speech for them, it's about freedom to force people to listen. Having their own server where they can shout at each other all day doesn't serve their purpose. Their panties get wet by forcing others to listen.

[-] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

i think there were one or two right wing instances, but they got defederated from everyone

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[-] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 13 points 1 week ago

Trump's tremendous social media platform truth dot barf runs on Activity Pub, they just don't federate with anyone by default. It's like they don't want dissenting views on there. Weird.

[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Because "crypto bros" care about making money, not any ideology, except in a performative sense. If you pitched the fediverse to the original researchers inventing cryptocurrency and the early adopters, they would likely be receptive. But these are no longer associated with the current crypto crowd.

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[-] landflucht@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago

Some of us are simply europeans.

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[-] pubquiz@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago

By LEFT do you infer compassion, empathy, and class solidarity? In contrast, by RIGHT do you infer me-first, only my rights matter and only those in my clan deserve to be cared about?

Then, yes.

[-] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Well we know where you stand without doubt

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[-] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I believe all life have value, no matter what.

I believe in justice and equality.

I believe in the rule if law.

I believe in democracy.

I believe in the freedom of speech.

I believe in religious freedom.

I believe no one should go hungry.

I believe no one should freeze.

I believe no one should die from preventable diseases.

I believe everyone has a right to education.

I believe everyone has a right to healthcare.

I believe everyone has a right to participate in society and the internet.

I believe everyone should contribute if they can, because that is fair.

I believe people should be able to retire.

I believe most people are good, and want to do good.

I believe in cooperation, and working towards a common goal.

I believe that all people should have a minimum set of rights, that are non-negotiable.

I trust my neighbours, my family and strangers.

Based on these values I could be placed anywhere from center-right to far-left in Europe.

In the US I am a filthy commie

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If you consider Democrats left wing then yes, by far the most here are left wing, since by most European standards Democrats are clearly right wing.

Republicans are extreme right by most standards. Republican (MAGA) is basically an American version of AfD!
So by that standard I guess about 80% here are left wing, maybe even more?

I'm team right-wing.

The right chicken wing is always tastier, so I eat that first.

Edit: Wait, this is politics? Wrong thread.

[-] TheFudd@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

See, this is why so many right-wingers are seen as simply not intelligent enough to understand basic science. Numerous studies have shown that the left-wing is on average, plumper, juicier, and more tender.

I bet you probably also believe those wing pieces with two bones are better than the big one-bone wings that look like little chicken legs, too. Typical right-winger, your brain has been melted by right-wing propaganda.

Sorry, but reality has a left-wing bias. Educate yourself, and do better.

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[-] zxqwas@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

My priorities in politics is:

  1. Don't wreck the economy.
  2. Uphold the rule of law.

In my country that makes me right leaning. In the US with the current president that apparently makes me a leftist.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 9 points 1 week ago

You communist!

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[-] NeilBru@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anti-Conservative

There is no such thing as liberalism — or progressivism, etc.

There is only conservatism. No other political philosophy actually exists; by the political analogue of Gresham’s Law, conservatism has driven every other idea out of circulation.

There might be, and should be, anti-conservatism; but it does not yet exist. What would it be? In order to answer that question, it is necessary and sufficient to characterize conservatism. Fortunately, this can be done very concisely.

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit:

There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

There is nothing more or else to it, and there never has been, in any place or time.

For millenia, conservatism had no name, because no other model of polity had ever been proposed. “The king can do no wrong.” In practice, this immunity was always extended to the king’s friends, however fungible a group they might have been. Today, we still have the king’s friends even where there is no king (dictator, etc.). Another way to look at this is that the king is a faction, rather than an individual.

As the core proposition of conservatism is indefensible if stated baldly, it has always been surrounded by an elaborate backwash of pseudophilosophy, amounting over time to millions of pages. All such is axiomatically dishonest and undeserving of serious scrutiny. Today, the accelerating de-education of humanity has reached a point where the market for pseudophilosophy is vanishing; it is, as The Kids Say These Days, tl;dr . All that is left is the core proposition itself — backed up, no longer by misdirection and sophistry, but by violence.

So this tells us what anti-conservatism must be: the proposition that the law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone, and cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

Then the appearance arises that the task is to map “liberalism”, or “progressivism”, or “socialism”, or whateverthefuckkindofstupidnoise-ism, onto the core proposition of anti-conservatism.

No, it a’n’t. The task is to throw all those things on the exact same burn pile as the collected works of all the apologists for conservatism, and start fresh. The core proposition of anti-conservatism requires no supplementation and no exegesis. It is as sufficient as it is necessary. What you see is what you get:

The law cannot protect anyone unless it binds everyone; and it cannot bind anyone unless it protects everyone.

  • Frank Wilhoit
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if by left-wing you mean i think more than 3 months ahead, then yes.

[-] Ideonek@lemm.ee 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Maybe. But your impression of it may be skewed, because there are a lot of non-USA people here. That creste some mismatch in terms that tend to overwaight the perceived size of left-leaning people. But it's terminology, really. What in USA is considered "left" more-or-less align with what is considered left outside of USA. But what an average Trump supporter call "conservative", in the rest of the word is simply know as lunacy.

[-] ada 19 points 1 week ago

What in USA is considered “left” more-or-less align with what is considered left outside of USA

What is considered left in the USA is largely considered center or center right outside of the USA

[-] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Most current US Democrats are Neoliberal Reagan Republicans.

US Republicans since Reagan are fucking Nazis.

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[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 17 points 1 week ago

Yes. Signing up is not easy. Most people here can understand written instructions and have some basic technical knowledge. People who are not stupid tend to lean left.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago

By which country's standards?

[-] Korrok 16 points 1 week ago
[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago

I like to consider myself leftist. But it's true that I don't agree in all that most current left wing political parties stand for.

I think all human are born equal, and should have a good life. That politics should be used to improve everyone's life.

But in the what does this mean or how to do it I feel more and more differences lately.

To give an example, I cannot really stand identity politics. I think that the best course of action is to dissolve identitarian (is that word real?) groups instead of exacerbating their differences. I feel like people should be getting rid of labels instead of having more and more labels every day.

That's just a personal opinion, based on the idea that if you define different groups the chance of conflict between groups is bigger than if you define only one group. And I do get the idea behind identity politics within the left wing spectrum. I just don't agree that's the best course of action.

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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

I'm a Marxist-Leninist, so yes. I think you'll find most people on Lemmy in general fall into the major categories of "Liberal," as in the US Democrat style, Anarchists, and Marxists. Different instances lean in different directions on this, with overall few outright conservatives.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago
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[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Right wingers have, or cause, trouble in open forums, so most social media that isn't operated as a walled garden, tends to be more left leaning.

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[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

I'm a left libertarian. I embrace decentralization, collectivism, freedom from corporate and central government tyranny, and want to maximize individual liberty and progressive values as we ideally move towards a society like the Culture series by Ian M. Banks.

I'm not Anarchist because it's too chaotic and unrealistic, and I'm not ML because I don't like State authoritarianism and central planning.

[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Can you give some examples of how that works? Like, who pays for roads, who handles environmental regulations (or are there any), who establishes education standards (or are there any), etc. I'm not trying to argue, it just seems like on the internet people referring to "state authoritarianism" and "central government tyranny" ranges from "adults can't be transgender" to "I have to pay taxes and the government won't let me own slaves."

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[-] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

I'm Independent, but cannot support Republicans anymore ... so I guess I'm a Democrat that hates gun control.

[-] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

if you go far enough left, you get your guns back. :)

[-] Tiger666@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 week ago

Do you advocate seizing the means of production and are a worker? If not, then you are not a leftist.

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[-] Lexam@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm left handed. I don't have wings.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Yes. They are fanatics too. Like Twitter but instead of wanting to kill people for profit, IRS wanting to kill people for not being left.

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