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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 286 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is misleading. Not sure if by ignorance or malice, but it's very misleading.

This isn't happening with your browser bookmarks. This is Google Collections, which is a shareable bookmarking feature, meaning it can be made publicly available. That's why it's moderated. It's basically Google's version on something like Pinterest.

https://www.androidpolice.com/create-google-collections/

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 year ago

Even so - it's not an excuse meddle with it, whatever you call it. Fuck Google.

[-] Sneptaur@pawb.social 79 points 1 year ago

You should be mad about the things google does. I don’t think this particular thing is unreasonable though.

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 year ago
[-] darcmage@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

If you're going to store something on someone else's computer (Google cloud), they have every right to control what is and is not allowed on their systems. Don't like it? Use encryption, selfhost, etc...

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[-] hh93@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

So if you have a collection with political targets and the folder is just google maps links to their houses with their names as the bookmark name google shouldn't be allowed to stop you from spreading this?

Sure google is shitty but this feature is designed to share links with other people and sometimes those links can be dangerous so imho it's absolutely necessary to moderate them at some level.

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Depends if it's illegal or not. In your case it's probably illegal.

[-] hh93@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

In that case they deleted a link to illegal content in their jurisdiction - so should be fine - shouldn't it?

[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

IMO defending Google is the underhanded move.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 year ago

Sharing misleading info means people are less likely to believe you on real issues.

Firefox IS better, Chrome's meddling IS a problem. We don't need to make stuff up in favor of that, and clarifying the point isn't "defending Google"

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

DAE GOOGLE BAD???

I don't give a fuck if you like Google or not, but spreading misleading FUD is the real underhanded move.

There are plenty of valid reasons to be critical of Google. This ain't one.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

IMO targeting someone you don't like with antipathy regardless of their actions is a sociopathic move.

[-] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 59 points 1 year ago

All the more reason to switch to Firefox

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't change the rules of Google Collections?

This isn't a Chrome thing....

[-] EvokerKing@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would but Firefox is behind on many things including UI, speed, and other things. One of the main reasons is compatibility. A lot of things in html, css, and js don't yet work in Firefox but do on chromium based browsers. This is even clearly outlined by Mozilla in mdn web docs. The only thing with worse compatibility is safari (who could've seen that one coming). Also it seems like this is a Google thing so it probably only affects chrome and not chromium. I'm waiting for arc to be on Windows but if you want chrome without most of Google's spyware shit just use chromium. You don't need a chromium based browser if you can just use chromium itself.

Edit: you guys need to chill with the responses. There is so many that sync won't let me respond despite me writing paragraphs that address everything you guys are concerned about like saying everything works (all of webkit doesn't).

[-] bloopernova@programming.dev 29 points 1 year ago

Firefox is faster than chrome now.

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[-] dartos@reddthat.com 27 points 1 year ago

What “things in html, css, and js” does Firefox not support that prevents you from using it?

WebGPU has been the biggest one for me, but most sites don’t even use it.

[-] youngalfred@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

The only thing I've found that Firefox didn't work right with is certain SharePoint features, which unfortunately is a show stopper for me.

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[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 year ago

That sounds like someone who has never even used Firefox in the last 10+ years. What the hell dude.

Show me a popular website that doesn't work in Firefox.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The compatibility issues arise only because Chrome/Chromium dominates the market, hence Google weld the power to define the web standards.

[-] BromSwolligans@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but if anything doesn't work correctly it's specifically because of the Chromium monopoly on the direction of web development. It's almost a reason unto itself to move to Firefox. It's like saying "what's the point in shopping at a mom and pop store when Amazon basically won the future of capitalism anyway?" As an argument it's just "let's give up and let Google win."

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[-] ram@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

What the actual hell? I hate this so much. Google won't touch right-wing extremist content, yet they'll just poof your bookmarks? Bullshit.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 12 points 1 year ago

Well right wing extremists support their right to consume and subjugate the entire web into their jurisdiction, so........ No real surprise they back the fascists and their openly violent goals and rhetoric.

For fun though put some content on there about using violence to defend against their violence and see how quick you get moderated into oblivion 😂

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There was a post on this yesterday.

They are moderating something, the issue with the article was it's not user's bookmarks. It's some app-specific feature called collections.

edit: it's the same post...it's a bit weird linking a direct link to a lemee.ee post when they get federated here anyway.....

[-] Platform27@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, I’m not surprised. Not just because of their lack of privacy (them knowing your bookmarks), but also legally. Some countries are trying to crack down on piracy, and other illegal material, asking companies (like Google) to do this.

Bottom line, don’t use Chrome, and Google Sync.

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

This doesn't involve your browser bookmarks. Google Collections is a link sharing tool.

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[-] rzlatic@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

laughing in firefoxian.

[-] Written2323@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Not bookmarks. Google collection

[-] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Even if you hate Google, don't go around spreading bullshit, please

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

It's like big tech corporations have been having a tournament called 'Who's Most Fucked Up' Cup for past few years, we're getting into the finals lately and Google and Microsoft are favourites for the golden medal.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder how they did it. The sync data is supposed to be protected by E2EE where the key is derived from the user password or an separate sync password, at least before I abandon Chrome and go FF few years ago.

[-] Ottomateeverything@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It's not Chrome and it's not through sync.

It's Google Collections. Read the post.

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[-] Platform27@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Last I looked, Chrome’s sync is not E2EE. Next to nothing (user space) is E2EE, in Google’s ecosystem. By default it’s only Encryption in Transit. I think you can enable a Passphrase (encryption on device), but that’s optional.

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[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

Encrypted between... Chrome and Chrome? Two installations of Google's non-FOSS browser? You never really had control over that data.

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