Forgot I was on lemmy for a sec and thought this was about the band Fireworks. I was ready to throw hands.
I fucking hate them. I have ptsd and it fucks me up and scares my dog
fortunately this opinion is becoming more and more popular and widespread.
I hate fireworks too. Only obnoxious people seem to enjoy them and then leave a horrible mess behind to blow in the wind.
Only obnoxious depressed boring people find the bad in everything even the fun exciting & beautiful
Id rather be a depressed boring person who doesnt add more trash to these mountains of trash in our environment than blow up things like a simple monkey.
Fireworks should be something only done in public spaces for public festivals and stuff. Or perhaps on privatly owned rural isolated land.
It’s ridiculous people can just do noise pollution in the middle of cities. My mother has a neurological disease that can be worsened by acute noise. It always takes her weeks to recover after fireworks, even with earplugs and noise cancelling headphones.
The actual pollution of the fireworks is a much bigger issue than the noise pollution. They create a lot of litter.
I miss when fireworks were illegal here (well, for civilians, there were still planned shows occasionally). They were made legal and people went nuts and my poor cat was plastered to me the entire time, just shaking.
Unless your military were the only people allowed to use fireworks it was still civilians setting them off
...I read "firefox" in the title and was very confused
Legitimately great post, this is fairly unpopular.
I love fireworks. Some of my favorite memories are driving down the road to the fireworks stands that are only open a few times a year and watching people go nuts. I’m from southern Arizona originally where they had pretty stringent bans on them, so living in a different area of the country I finally get to experience them.
The other thing is that you know exactly when the fireworks are coming literally years in advance. There’s no excuse for not being prepared. And the “nobody wants to see it” reeks of conservatives talking about pride parades. Suck it up.
Here are some statistics to suck up:
As far as knowing “exactly when the fireworks are coming”, I hear mortars exploding for a solid two weeks in June and July, another two weeks around New Year’s Eve, and throughout the year at various events and during random neighborhood parties. There’s no way to predict the concussions, and millions of people have PTSD.
In addition, the 4th of July is the deadliest day for pets and wildlife.
https://www.nfpa.org/education-and-research/home-fire-safety/fireworks
Here are some statistics to suck up
I don’t think you understand what “suck it up” means. I have no problem with those stats. 6 people died related to fireworks over a whole year in a country of nearly 350m people? I can’t think of anything that’s comparable. Something like 30 people a year die from lightning in the US.
As for the 4th being the deadliest day for pets, as pet owners, it’s our responsibility to take care of our pets. You know when 4th of July is. You know when new years is. That’s on the pet owners.
There’s no way to predict? You have zero insight into when this is happening in spite of telling me exactly when it’s happening?
It’s fine that you’re not a fan. We can’t ban everything that has a little bit of risk and some homebody doesn’t like. There’d be literally nothing left to do.
Only 6 people died in a country with 350 million people and you think it's fine? How does 0 people die of this sound?
Try applying that standard to literally anything. How many people die a year cooking? Choking on food? Sleeping?
There’s no way to predict? You have zero insight into when this is happening in spite of telling me exactly when it’s happening?
Do you live somewhere where fireworks are only set off on specific days? I had asshole launching fireworks in NYC all the time
Someone launched fireworks a week ago in our neighbourhood. Why? A birthday? Who knows. It wasn't any holiday nor a weekend. How exactly does one plan for that? And it wasn't a single bear bang, it went on for 10-15mins. Nor was it that unusual. People seem to have fireworks displays at random throughout the year - any month, any day of the week. Some are even too early for it to be dark enough out to see them well so they are just a bunch of noise. I don't mind the scripted displays on Halloween night, NYE, and July 1st but we don't need all the amateur in between ones.
I live in DFW, in Texas. They’re pretty big on fireworks here. I live about a mile from the city limits of my suburb. Once you’re in the county people are able to set them off all they want. I also have two dogs. When I hear people whining about this, it really makes me chuckle.
4th of July is on the 4th of July every year. You have about 3 months from right now to figure it out. Go get ear plugs, medicine from your vet, a weighted blanket, or whatever right now.
I don’t tend to get very many random fireworks, or I don’t notice them. I am able to hear the local gun ranges though when the wind is blowing the right direction. It’s just not a big deal, regardless. It’s just noise.
It wasn’t just noise to my buddy Christian who did two tours in Iraq. He slept outside the last liquor store I managed because while he could live in his sister’s house his PTSD almost caused him to harm a neighbor’s kid when they set off an M-80.
You think it’s just noise because to you it is. To the guy with PTSD it’s not noise it puts them back into the war.
You find it a habit to use your buddy’s problems for your benefit?
My parents are both Air Force vets, my brother in law and cousin are both combat marines deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Cousin was a Purple Heart recipient who was caught up in an IED attack. Another cousin is army. My best bud is currently a marine pilot. Another best friend of mine is a marine reservist. They all enjoy fireworks.
PTSD sucks. Your friend needs treatment. If he’s set off by noise, the fix isn’t to ban noise. That’s never going to happen. Cars will backfire, Champaign corks will pop, TVs will play gun noises, and fireworks will continue.
You find it a habit to use your buddy’s problems for your benefit?
What is your problem? How dod you think that was an appropriate response in any way?
I provided an example of my friend to demonstrate how fireworks can negatively impact people in ways you might not have seen.
My parents are both Air Force vets, brother in law and cousin are both combat marines deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan. Cousin was a Purple Heart recipient who was caught up in an IED attack. Another cousin is army. My best bud is currently a marine pilot. Another best friend of mine is a marine reservist. They all enjoy fireworks.
Setting aside you are doing the sane thing you accused me of you don’t mention anyone having PTSD from airstrikes. Maybe they like fireworks because they don’t have PTSD.
I thought I was pretty clear. I think calling out your friend by name as an anecdote to back some point in an internet argument is a shitty thing to do. PTSD was already brought up in this thread, but for some reason you felt the need to pull Christian into it? Gross.
Yes, I did the exact same thing to show how fucking stupid this line of reasoning is. There are so many vets who love fireworks, why does Christian get to keep them from that? Stop using veterans as pawns in your arguments, it’s disgusting.
If you think the needs of veterans with PTSD are worth banning all fireworks, just say that and be done with it.
thought I was pretty clear. I think calling out your friend by name as an anecdote to back some point in an internet argument is a shitty thing to do.
Which wasn’t what I was doing. I was trying to provide a real world example of what PTSD looks like since you don’t seem to get it. I was trying o humanize the problem and you seem to lack the empathy and compassion to understand this.
The fact you brought up your supposed connections to service members to “score a point” when they don’t have PTSD is weird, hypocritical, and gross.
You need to work on your compassion because you clearly lack it.
No, you’re doing this bullshit where either I agree with you or I don’t “support the vets”, straight out of the Republican playbook. It’s a gross tactic to use. Make your argument without bringing someone else’s personal struggles into this. If you think your vet buddy is more important than mine, say that with your chest.
No, you’re doing this bullshit where either I agree with you or I don’t “support the vets”,
No, again I was trying to provide a real example of how PTSD impacts people. You seem to not get how PTSD works. I was trying to show you an example if what that looked like unfortunately you decided that this was a moral pissing match which it wasn’t.
Your reaction was immature and inappropriate.
Oh please, save it for someone willing to buy that. You’re bent out of shape because I wasn’t swayed by your attempt at emotional manipulation.
I don't mind them when people don't set them off in the middle of the night. My cat is absolutely terrified and twice a year it breaks my heart to see her cowering in fear under my duvet. Therefore I would 100% welcome a ban. They also kill birds and mangle idiots' hands. Though it's probably deserved but it's putting undue pressure on health services.
Therefore I would 100% welcome a ban. They also kill birds and mangle idiots’ hands.
Even though National Geographic agrees with part of what you're saying, banning all cats many would consider extreme. Its also not common that people know that domestic cats are the #1 killer of birds in Canada and the USA.
Ah the ole lemmy switcheroo
Hold my preferred instance, I'm going in!
It's an older meme, sir, but it checks out
Ooooh oh OHHHH you little sh..... Thanks for the giggle though. I'll have you know my delicate cupcake princess is not a murderer.
Although I am the idiot and my hands are about 98% scar tissue
Utter crap for wildlife too
I always thought it was a major fuck you to veterans that the big state funded fireworks display where I live is launched like 10 feet from the veterans hospital where they have people living there and being treated for PTSD.
Also I worked second shift so driving home through low visibility "fog" a few hours after everyone stops shooting them off feels eerie when you live in a city that doesn't get fog. That's probably not good for breathing, but I don't really know about just kind of being anecdotal
What about 4th of July or whatever your independence day happens to be? Although, right now none of this seems like we have Independence.
I for one would like to extend my middle finger to anyone who thinks god exists and is okay with the talking orange stain.
When I grew up I used to love fireworks at new years here in the Netherlands. However, now that I'm older and more importantly, no longer live in the same neighborhood, I've grown a big dislike of them.
A big part of this is the vandalism and carelessness that people have. I literally have to move my car elsewhere to prevent it from potentially getting set on fire by some of our neighbors, who get super drunk and then set off fireworks and don't take care of the leftovers, which often catch fire. They also moved fireworks to a patch of shrubs and trees before and if it wasn't for me calling the cops and the weather being somewhat wet they could've set a whole area on fire. It's absolutely ridiculous. Fortunately, there seems to be more and more support for a ban here. The only problem is that it'll be very hard to uphold it after such a long tradition of having fireworks. They already banned some of the heavier stuff before and it never worked, people still had it. Hopefully it'll be different this time.
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