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What's your definition of tankie?
(lemm.ee)
Supports 'socalist' authoritarianism
Tankies I define as Authoritarian state apologists, who support authoritarian states without any critical examination of that belief.
Pretty much this. I see a lot of arguments that their support of russia is "critical support" but there's no criticism of it in their discussions. Being against the western imperialism, it seems, automatically grants a country a title of "lesser evil" and everything it does gets conveniently glossed over.
That said, I can't in good faith assert that everyone or even majority of the users on so-called "tankie triad" instances are tankies. It's more that the tankies have a loud presence there that isn't moderated. Most of the people from hexbear and .ml I've interacted with have been polite and rational in explaining their worldview.
Authoritarian left who think the end justifies the means. They’re willing to use extreme systematic violence to achieve a communist society.
They're not communists
Thats dangerously close to the "no true scotsman" fallacy.
It isn't close to, it is the no true Scotsman fallacy.
Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal') is a sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement, whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered on common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in society based on need. A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes, and ultimately money and the state (or nation state).
Communists often seek a voluntary state of self-governance but disagree on the means to this end. This reflects a distinction between a libertarian socialist approach of communization, revolutionary spontaneity, and workers' self-management, and an authoritarian socialist, vanguardist, or party-driven approach under a socialist state, which is eventually expected to wither away.
their end goal is state capitalism though, so I don't see the contradiction
Yeah. If they call the current state of China with literal billionaires, communist, then they aren’t communist in any economically defined sense of the world
It's only a fallacy when used wrong
authoritarian communists, i.e, people who unironically support modern russia
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this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2025
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