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California dog owners, amirite? (lemmy.world)

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago

Animals don't belong in places that sell food. Animals don't belong in office supply stores. Animals don't belong in post offices. Animals don't belong in any business other than a vet's office or pet supply store that specifically allows them.

If you can't train your animal to be home alone long enough for you to run some errands, then you shouldn't own a pet.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

These rules seem arbitrary and capricious. If the dog is well-trained, the owner is able to meet its needs on the go, and nobody else is explicitly being bothered, there's no compelling reason to block it from any of these establishments.

All of the above hold true for therapy animals, for instance. This isn't about the animal being well-trained, it is about both the pet and the person to be comfortable and happy, without impinging on the comfort and happiness of others. Locking well-behaved pets out of all of the above establishments does nothing to improve your comfort or happiness. It only serves to inconvenience others.

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 16 points 6 days ago

Well no, the intent is not to inconvenience others, but to not inconvenience yourself.

I love animals. Dogs, cats, rabbits, whatever. Love them all. I'm highly allergic to most of them though.

As a customer of an establishment, why do I need to deal with the animal that belongs to another customer of the establishment? And I'm not being a jerk. I'm not complaining or making a fuss, but if I'm trying to buy toilet paper I shouldn't need to worry about hair, dander, or if somebody's dog is well behaved or not. I am the one being inconvenienced, and there doesn't seem to be a good reason for it.

That goes to the point of the comment you replied to. And to your point, if nobody else is being bothered... Are they checking if others are being bothered? Usually not. That's a generalization but I can say in my experience it's true more often than not (and I notice when it is). I'm not saying to ban pets in stores, but it should not be the norm and expect others to just deal with it.

[-] prole 5 points 6 days ago

Barring animals from places that sell food is not arbitrary and capricious, it's a safety issue.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

How many people have suffered physical harm from ordering food adjacent to a service animal?

[-] prole 3 points 6 days ago

Am I google now?

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Safety how? What exactly is happening between my dog that stays on the floor and your food?

[-] remon@ani.social 6 points 6 days ago

Animals don’t belong in post offices

Then how do you mail the animal?

[-] Amanduh@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

What about service dogs?

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Those should be an exception, obviously. But in CA we have a big problem with service animal fraud. It's bad for people with disabilities because

the ones who actually need animals get undue criticism, and
people with severe dog allergies have elevated exposure.

I think a good solution would be if the service harnesses had a QR code that linked to a state govt website with the animal's picture.

[-] Amanduh@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

I've never heard of service dog fraud tbh that's silly

[-] aspiringproblems@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Not to be pedantic but we fall under the classification of Animals. And anywhere they allow children 5 and under I'm bringing my pet to. Children are 100 times worse than the worst behaved pet

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Animals make your food. Shocking I know. At least they wash their hands. All my service dog does is lay under the table, and bother me if she needs to alert.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

Last week I was walking down the street with my kids, and some loose dog comes running at my youngest. I'm holding both kids' hands, so I kicked at the dog to keep it away without actually hitting the dog.

All of a sudden, its absentee owner comes out of the woodwork to threaten "if you kick my dog I'll kick you!" I just hung on to my kids and kept on walking. I would rather get kicked than let his dog do whatever it was going to do to my kid. I'm not going to stop and get in a fight with this idiot, but it was simply astounding that he expected random people on the street to care more about his dog than he does.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I love dogs but fully support you on this one.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

No you're right. You don't know that dog's temperment. Your kids are more important than a loose dog.

[-] silverlose@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

You made the right call. That person was definitely a dangerous idiot.

[-] HighFructoseLowStand@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

It is not limited to California, I assure you.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago

If you think that bad dog owner entitlement is an exclusively Californian issue then I regret to inform you that I have terrible news about the rest of the country.

[-] MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I got a dog to spend time with it. It sleeps with me, it goes to work with me, it goes to bars with me. Don't like it? Not my problem.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Freedom goes both ways you ding dong. A store owner has every right to ban non-service dogs from their store. Don’t like it? Not the store owner’s problem.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Who says they have a problem with the store owner's not allowing them though? They both can have no problem. Lmao.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Your dog bites someone and it becomes a big YOU problem.

[-] xtre3m@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Can i come with my pet snake to your workplace? Can i come with a girafe? How about a donkey? A hippo? aAgoat? A duck? Where is the line?

[-] mudstickmcgee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

Probably where the animal interfere with the work? Imo doesn't matter what kind of animal you bring as long as it's not a nuisance. The line isn't drawn by species but behaviour

I.e got a chill duck that just hangs around that's fine. Hyper puppy that chews on cables and pisses on all the plants, not so much. As for a hippo you would have to check the buildings structural integrity.

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Working retail I never enforced the no dogs policy. We actually did have a lady bring in her bearded dragon. She let me hold it. Ironiclly the only animal I wish I could have kicked out was a legally blind woman's service dog. It's a loud and vicious chihuahua. That little guy is such an asshole. It barks at anyone who walks past it.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

You trained it too though, right?

Right?!?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The only problem I've had with other dog owners in California or anywhere else, is owners who don't pick up their dog's shit. I see people bring dogs into stores all the time, they're always fine, I never see problems with that.

Now when I step 6-inches off a popular trail to take a picture of a popular view and step in piles of dog feces that people don't bother to clean because it's technically not someone's yard, that's when I start to wonder if domestication was a good idea. (Of humans that is.)

[-] General_Effort@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Get humped by a dog.
Whine like a bitch.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

You'd think bitches would like getting humped by dogs.

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tbh I love it when customers bring their dogs to my work (as long as the dog is friendly).

Gives me something cute to look at and pet during an otherwise bland day

[-] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Work dogs are the best part of my day

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 5 days ago

I worked a retail gig in the Bay Area. I was the only one who tried to enforce the no-dog policy. That was 20 years ago. I wouldn't bother now.

[-] Rachelhazideas@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I'll take a dog over a kid screeching in a store.

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[-] kiwii4k@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

as annoying as it is, i honestly dont see too many problems here in socal

the dogs are pretty chill and they don't seem to cause any issues. i just don't know why i'd expend the energy if things are generally fine.

[-] toxiczombie@lemm.ee 2 points 5 days ago

Op, did your leg get humped by a dog in a store?

[-] shai_hulud@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

I'm not a dog person, even the one dog I did have in my household is a shiba inu, which is way more cat-like than anything. I don't have a problem with dogs in stores as long as they're well behaved...

BUT

Don't take your dog to a venue or bar with loud live music. Just because you're comfortable with loud music doesn't mean your dog is. I imagine it's pretty hard on their much more sensitive hearing and our vet confirmed this to me.

Thats my 2¢

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