If you like more light in the evening, go to bed late and wake up late. If you like light in the morning, go to bed early and wake up early.

Other way around. If you want a lighter evening, your day has to slide earlier so when you sleep is closer to sunset.

Na, we should get rid of that idea completely. If everyone used one time like UTC (other time zones are available) and just align your working hours etc to your location.

Then 14:00 is 14:00 everywhere, just that some are asleep then, others are awake!

Mid-day should be the middle of the day. Mid-night should be the middle of the night.

You'd need new clocks, those times drift every day, so 12:00 midday would need to change automatically.

Yes, but the EU is split into four time zones now and if you implement this technically there would be many more:

8 if we'd have 30-min time-zones 16 if we'd have 15-min time-zones 24 if we'd have 10-min time-zones 48 if we'd have 5-min time-zones 240 if we'd have 1-min time-zones

I'm not saying we should keep dst, but we can't have everyone have midday at 12:00 and midnight at 00:00.

Tell my employer that.

Your first two lines need a caveat: ... at a local meridian as chosen by the will of the people*.

Otherwise you end up in situations where every individual location sets their clock by local noon, which varies by longitude. If you think it's bad there are a handful of different time zones across your continent, wait until it's different from one end of town to the other.

The British invented (or popularised) standard time to avoid those sorts of problems. Problems that didn't exist until high-speed long distance travel became a thing. And time zones were a later addition because Britain didn't need any, but they're also somewhat necessary.

* for "will of the people", read "will of the ruling class" as necessary. See: China.

While we're at it, cancel the time zones. I have no fucking clue why we're still pretending everyone wakes up at the same time of the day all over the world. All it does is mess up scheduling for when you actually want to talk to people on the other side of the world.

It's the standard. It's what clocks are "supposed" to be set at. DST forces everyone to pretend it's another time. Let people take advantage of summer daylight how they see fit rather than forcing them to.

I advocate for UTC everywhere. So far I'm always dismissed as a joke.

Because time doesn't really matter in any of those situations.

You still need to know all that information.

So no night shift bonus until contract is renegotiated..?

Me too. I think a lot of ppl do as it literally gives (most) people more daylight to actually do stuff since most people work until like 3-6pm. Another side effect during ST is it crowds things that require daylight on the weekends. The days (in the northern hemisphere) are already shorter, add ST on top of it and now all the things that require daylight that people want to do after work have to wait until the weekend because they just don't have enough time. Then the weekend comes and everyone is there because they all had to wait. Once DST comes there's always noticeably smaller crowds cause now at least some people are able to go during the week.

The objection isn’t to DST, it’s to switching back and forth. Just pick one and stick with it.

I think most people just don't like the time changes twice a year. Permanent standard time or summer time doesn't matter as much to me, just pick one and stay with it.

Just... wake up earlier?