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[-] kittenzrulz123 41 points 3 days ago
[-] oplkill@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I agree if something made by ai it shouldn't be posted in anyway

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Weird place to make this stand

[-] kittenzrulz123 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Its slop, if you want to make a political point you shouldn't need to steal (that post is AI generated)

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Who cares? It's a meme statement. It's not using anyone's likeness. Where is your proof that it's AI and not graphic design?

[-] kittenzrulz123 2 points 3 days ago

It has a distinct AI blurriness, details are off, and the text is clearly edited (the original text from the AI image was probrally useless and unreadable)

Conclusion: I would say with 80% certainty that this image is AI generated

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

So a guess and no evidence

[-] kittenzrulz123 1 points 2 days ago

The evidence is right in front of your face, it has all the clear and distinct signs of ai

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

That's not what the word evidence means. That's a guess. Because I actually did a reverse image search and saw the original. So it leans closer to graphic art. But hey, keep telling yourself you know better. I'm pulling for you.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago
[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

Weird place to start a debate over it

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Weird place to question someone saying the meaning is more important than the medium

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Weird to say that now when it would have been a way more effective opener!

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm very surprised that anyone even responded to this comment. It was more to the OP that said "fuck AI" with zero evidence that it's AI and doesn't seem to understand how AI works.

In fact I found the original. Which looks near identical. I'm more convinced this is graphic art than AI.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 days ago

I'm not opposed to the message, but did it have to be an AI generated picture?

[-] Catoblepas 16 points 4 days ago

I’m torn on whether this is AI. The AI detectors I put it in say no, and the letters being consistent (all T’s looking like all other T’s, etc) says real person to me rather than machine generated. The wood grain is also consistent beneath the lettering, and it and the chain link fence don’t meander or disappear in any weird ways that I see.

That said the building in the background looks weird to me, as does the lighting. And the combination of the wood grain plus the texture on the lettering does give it that weird quality that AI text tends to have, it immediately made me question it as well. I just can’t decide if it’s a weird artifact of real textures clashing or not.

[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 15 points 4 days ago

Its edited/manipulated in some way. The E's are all the same, even the bump on the bottom part is there for all of them.

Might be photoshop moreso than ai

[-] Catoblepas 11 points 4 days ago

Yeah, them all being the same is what makes me think person; when you look at those AI images with legible text, the text wiggles and is inconsistent when you compare something like one A to another A. But if you’re a person using linocut stamps or duplicating things in photoshop, letters will look the same.

There’s other little things too, like the knot in the wood that the paper dips into, that make me lean more towards ‘real but strange looking photo.’

[-] Baguette@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago

I'd lean more towards real photo but photoshopped and the original text was something else

You can see the line artifacts around each repeated characters are the same despite the letters themselves being different sizes, so I'm leaning towards they just cut and scaled letters from the original text or something similar. You can see for example each T has a line artifact on the bottom left and each E has one on the top. Plus, if it was an irl letter stamp, they wouldnt have different sizes for the letters, at least not to this degree

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I don’t know why people seem to forget about photoshop. Late night hosts were using photoshopped pictures in bits 30 years ago.

[-] oplkill@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
[-] username_no_1@lemm.ee 17 points 4 days ago

Yep, it's literally in the name unhoused/homeless. Will giving someone a home fix mental health and/or addiction issues? Probably not. But providing permanent, stable housing is a necessary first step.

[-] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

I have more respect for someone who goes "I hate homeless people, I think they're scum" and pushes for actually housing them because they don't ever want to see them again, over someone who goes "Oh those poor dears! We really should do something!" and then just likes a social media post about hostile architecture and leaves it at that.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 10 points 4 days ago

It's also funny to me when people say they are Christian but don't want to help the poor. The good Samaritan is very clear. So is the bit about the sheep and the goats.

But you can use the Bible to justify anything, I guess.

[-] yarr@feddit.nl 3 points 3 days ago

Love thy neighbor as thy self, because let's be real, they can just fend for themselves, and if they don't, well, fuck the poor. I mean, why should I have to take care of all these lazy bums? They're always begging for scraps anyway. It's like, if you can't handle a little poverty, then maybe you shouldn't be living here. Fuck the poor.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Christianity is about control for the powerful and bedtime stories to make you feel better about inexcusable shitty behavior for the masses.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

That's the church. I would take care to keep the institution distinct from the spirituality. Some of the most practicing and compassionate radical leftists I've ever met have been christian anarchists.

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I'm not Christian and I don't want to see them. Also I didn't consider housing them to be my job. That's why we have government that we elect and pay taxes to in order to fund it. This is just bs sign that simply virtue signaling instead of asking hard questions.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 8 points 4 days ago

You don't want to see them because you want them to be housed, or you want them to be forcibly moved so they're unhoused out of sight?

The government should be doing more for the housing crisis, but a first step for that is getting people aware of the issue and on board with solutions.

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

I don't want to see them because they are dangerous. Reasons don't matter. I've been harassed and my wife was attacked by homeless people in Portland. She has pretty severe PTSD right now because of that.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 3 days ago

Everyone is dangerous.

Kind of shitty to oppose systemic changes that would help them and reduce danger

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No housed person has harassed or attacked me since middle school.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Housed persons are peaceful. Unhoused persons are dangerous.

Literally if public housing was dispersed equally and equitably across a given city or area, as time goes by, unhoused people would housed people nearby anyone. They become peaceful by your logic.

The government might be able to do this using eminent domain, but people like you would oppose it in your neighborhood.

Everyone has to be onboard with this so the load on everyone becomes proportional and not disproportional.

And this is where American individualism gets in the way. People don't value community, and so politicians would be hard pressed to get this done while being shunned from office come time for the next election.

How do you break down American individualism? By removing barriers between housed and unhoused people, doing outreach, having conversations, and lending a helping hand in redevelopment.

Sounds like you're allergic to all of those though

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

People like me? You know nothing about me. Like for starters that I already live in the neighborhood with high number of public housing units. I have nothing against them whatsoever. I encourage them to build more. Yeah like having outreach and all that other bullshit solved the issue. Did you catch that I live in Portland? I see with my own eyes that these policy are not working even though bleeding hearts keep on talking about them like they are Jesuses incarnate.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

How are those government people that you elected working out?

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Not well. I don't know if you mean to imply something, but I live in Portland and our government is very liberal. And yes I voted for them. And yes they have solved absolutely nothing.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The notion of government being not your job, something you pay someone else to do, is a fallacy. And the notion that it can be that is fantasy. But even if that were the case, you'd be a chump to not at least demand in writing an undelivered service that you already paid for. We do have local council reps now.

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Wtf? Government is my job when I vote for it based on their declared policies. Demand services in writing? What are you talking about? What country are you from?

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Government is my job when I vote for it based on their declared policies.

Nope, that's the fallacy again. Literally not the way that it actually works. You have to hold your reps feet to the coals. Interests that are opposite your own already understand this fact. You have to get involved at least at some minimal level, or you'll never get what you want out of politics and will forever stay frustrated.

Portlanders do struggle with this concept more than a lot of other urban Americans and I think it's largely due to the fact that until a few months ago we were the only major city that didn't have a city council. They look at me like I'm an alien, and ask things like what country am I from.

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I already have a job. I don't need the second one. If I did, I would run for office myself.

[-] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

All good, I'm starting to realize that this interaction would have been even more a waste of my time had you actually taken my advice to heart.

[-] Peck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Useless advice from naive individual. What is there to discuss.

[-] Corno@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago

I wish more countries could address this issue rather than trying to pretend it isn't an issue by implementing hostile architecture.

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