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Worldnews mods remove last article written by assasinated Palestinian journalist Hossam Shabat (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by IndustryStandard@lemmy.world to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Edit: Even MBFC rates dropsitenews as a reliable source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drop-site-news-bias-and-credibility/

MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

There is no rule about 'blog sites' on worldnews. Jordanlund has made this up and proceeds to classify anything he does not like as a 'blog '.

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[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 49 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Sorry, YDI.

It's a known rule, it's been explained, and there are other places to post if you don't like that rule.

If it was the only C/ for posting things like that, it might not matter much that the rule about substack exists, but there are many places for it.

Edit: also, it's just a removal, that's not even close to power tripping by itself; there would have to be other factors to approach that standard.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It is not a rule. Nowhere in the sidebar of the worldnews subreddit does it say that SubStack is not a valid source. Nor does it say anything about "blogs". It says

Post news articles only

And this is most definitely a news article.

JordanLund is using his moderator powers to selectively decide what is and what is not "news" at his own whims.

[-] remon@ani.social 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nor does it say anything about “blogs”.

It say to only post news articles. Blogs aren't news articles.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 30 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hossam Shabat reporting about a genocide from Gaza is a "blog"? What lunacy is this argument?

These are not "opinion articles". Dropsite does some of the most hardcore factual journalism out there.

Calling Dropsite a "blog" means you do not understand what the word "news" even means.

[-] vfsh 27 points 7 months ago

But but but it's not from CNN or FOX or MSN or some other centralized editorialized platform that can force their own spin on it so therefore it isn't news!

(/S)

[-] remon@ani.social 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Calling Dropsite a “blog” means you do not understand what the word “news” even means.

You were the one to bring up blogs, mate .... but sure, if you say so.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

Jordanlund brought up "blogs" as a nonsense reason to ban dropsite.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 16 points 7 months ago

It's literally what Jordanlund cited as the reason for removal.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

You're falling afoul of a common fallacy: that every rule needs to have every possible iteration of its boundaries spelled out. This is not the case.

To the contrary, it's counterproductive. The more subclauses added to a rule, the more there are to remember, and the more people think that because something isn't listed that it's okay.

But, here's the thing.

The only mod action taken was to remove the post and tell you that substack isn't a valid source for that C/.

That's exactly what a mod is supposed to do. You are still free to post on that community, with sources that are allowed. That's the exact opposite of power tripping, it's measured, responsible moderation.

You don't have to agree that substack is a substandard and questionable source for news. You can freely post things from there on any of multiple lemmy communities. That C/ is not a gatekeeper for news on lemmy at all. Things being barred from there do not prevent them from being seen. So you can't claim that it's power tripping my that metric either.

But, I'm going to repeat and rephrase the opening of this comment.

It doesn't matter how well written, how well spelled out the rules are, someone is always going to disagree with them, think they don't apply to them, or just try to play rules lawyer with them to get around them. Trying to continually chase new rules, and rules expansions is a sucker's game, it can never succeed.

That being said, if Jordanlund or any other mod of that Conley community, or any community, wants to try and streamline their rules, I'm always glad to try and help jigger the wording of things. And, that rule probably does need clearer language just to reduce future complaints. It is a bit vague considering that "news articles" is not defined, and the colloquial usage of the term differs from a more formal one.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Worldnews ascribes authority to judge source validity to MBFC (which I disagree with, but let us put that aside).

Dropsite is rated highly credible on MBFC. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drop-site-news-bias-and-credibility/

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

None of that matters for the purposes of this community.

The mod action taken was well within the purview of the community and its rules

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Bruh its Jordan. Worst mod around. Just par for the course.

[-] prole 11 points 7 months ago

Oh yeah fuck that guy. What a chode.

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 7 months ago

Beyond the publicly known political preference of the mod, I think it's strange that a community on a social media site built on activitypub would have a blanked policy against the posting of other self-published news sources, irrespective of the authors and journalists and their proven reputation.

That said, my take on lemmy moderation has always been JDS, or 'just decentralize, stupid'. We're not reddit, and we don't want to be like reddit, so we shouldn't be going out of our way to centralize communities or complain when we don't like the moderation choices or rules of a community we think ought to be managed differently.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 18 points 7 months ago

Reading the comments here is a treat.

tl;dr Jordan dude may not be a Zionist, but their refusal to acknowledge a legitimate news source, even though it fields an array of veteran investigative journalists, formerly from The Intercept, just because it uses Substack under the hood, which they equate to WordPress (which is another platform used by big publications) makes them a PTB.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

It gets even worse down below.

In order to defend MBFC Jordan starts calling MondoWeiss antisemitic. Jordan quotes Zionist lobby sources to back up his claims, without any evidence of the antisemitism accusations except hearsay. Then refuses to engage when pressed on the issue.

https://lemmy.world/post/27393569/16039954

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 7 months ago

And even go on another anti blm rant

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

"We only allow reputable news sources! Now excuse me while I repeat a bunch of misinformation about BLM."

jordanlund

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 7 months ago

it's not misinformation if the mbfc says it is a good source

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 15 points 7 months ago

What's a good alternative to Worldnews?

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 7 months ago

!world@quokk.au

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Asking the real question.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago

!world@quokk.au

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 months ago

Man, this instance is great way to find people who need to be blocked

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Maybe if it was something like superrealnews.substack.com, but using a specific CMS isn't grounds for incredibility.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 4 points 7 months ago

I think it’s both kind of YDI and clueless mod.

Because they’ve consistently enforced no substack as far as I’m aware.

But also, I think that they should make an exception for this case.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

There is no rule against substack nor against 'blogs' and dropsite is even approved by MBFC.

The mod is pulling rules out of thin air.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago

https://media.tenor.com/6c5fmbFesL8AAAAM/boss-respect-me.gif

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

put ![](link here) to embed gifs by the way :)

where it's typed like this:

![](https://media.tenor.com/6c5fmbFesL8AAAAM/boss-respect-me.gif)

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