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Edit: Even MBFC rates dropsitenews as a reliable source https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drop-site-news-bias-and-credibility/

MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY

There is no rule about 'blog sites' on worldnews. Jordanlund has made this up and proceeds to classify anything he does not like as a 'blog '.

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[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Maybe if it was something like superrealnews.substack.com, but using a specific CMS isn't grounds for incredibility.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry, YDI.

It's a known rule, it's been explained, and there are other places to post if you don't like that rule.

If it was the only C/ for posting things like that, it might not matter much that the rule about substack exists, but there are many places for it.

Edit: also, it's just a removal, that's not even close to power tripping by itself; there would have to be other factors to approach that standard.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It is not a rule. Nowhere in the sidebar of the worldnews subreddit does it say that SubStack is not a valid source. Nor does it say anything about "blogs". It says

Post news articles only

And this is most definitely a news article.

JordanLund is using his moderator powers to selectively decide what is and what is not "news" at his own whims.

[-] remon@ani.social 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nor does it say anything about “blogs”.

It say to only post news articles. Blogs aren't news articles.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hossam Shabat reporting about a genocide from Gaza is a "blog"? What lunacy is this argument?

These are not "opinion articles". Dropsite does some of the most hardcore factual journalism out there.

Calling Dropsite a "blog" means you do not understand what the word "news" even means.

[-] vfsh 22 points 1 week ago

But but but it's not from CNN or FOX or MSN or some other centralized editorialized platform that can force their own spin on it so therefore it isn't news!

(/S)

[-] remon@ani.social 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Calling Dropsite a “blog” means you do not understand what the word “news” even means.

You were the one to bring up blogs, mate .... but sure, if you say so.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Jordanlund brought up "blogs" as a nonsense reason to ban dropsite.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

It's literally what Jordanlund cited as the reason for removal.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

You're falling afoul of a common fallacy: that every rule needs to have every possible iteration of its boundaries spelled out. This is not the case.

To the contrary, it's counterproductive. The more subclauses added to a rule, the more there are to remember, and the more people think that because something isn't listed that it's okay.

But, here's the thing.

The only mod action taken was to remove the post and tell you that substack isn't a valid source for that C/.

That's exactly what a mod is supposed to do. You are still free to post on that community, with sources that are allowed. That's the exact opposite of power tripping, it's measured, responsible moderation.

You don't have to agree that substack is a substandard and questionable source for news. You can freely post things from there on any of multiple lemmy communities. That C/ is not a gatekeeper for news on lemmy at all. Things being barred from there do not prevent them from being seen. So you can't claim that it's power tripping my that metric either.

But, I'm going to repeat and rephrase the opening of this comment.

It doesn't matter how well written, how well spelled out the rules are, someone is always going to disagree with them, think they don't apply to them, or just try to play rules lawyer with them to get around them. Trying to continually chase new rules, and rules expansions is a sucker's game, it can never succeed.

That being said, if Jordanlund or any other mod of that Conley community, or any community, wants to try and streamline their rules, I'm always glad to try and help jigger the wording of things. And, that rule probably does need clearer language just to reduce future complaints. It is a bit vague considering that "news articles" is not defined, and the colloquial usage of the term differs from a more formal one.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Worldnews ascribes authority to judge source validity to MBFC (which I disagree with, but let us put that aside).

Dropsite is rated highly credible on MBFC. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/drop-site-news-bias-and-credibility/

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

None of that matters for the purposes of this community.

The mod action taken was well within the purview of the community and its rules

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

Bruh its Jordan. Worst mod around. Just par for the course.

[-] prole 7 points 1 week ago

Oh yeah fuck that guy. What a chode.

[-] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

Beyond the publicly known political preference of the mod, I think it's strange that a community on a social media site built on activitypub would have a blanked policy against the posting of other self-published news sources, irrespective of the authors and journalists and their proven reputation.

That said, my take on lemmy moderation has always been JDS, or 'just decentralize, stupid'. We're not reddit, and we don't want to be like reddit, so we shouldn't be going out of our way to centralize communities or complain when we don't like the moderation choices or rules of a community we think ought to be managed differently.

[-] gwilikers@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

What's a good alternative to Worldnews?

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

Reading the comments here is a treat.

tl;dr Jordan dude may not be a Zionist, but their refusal to acknowledge a legitimate news source, even though it fields an array of veteran investigative journalists, formerly from The Intercept, just because it uses Substack under the hood, which they equate to WordPress (which is another platform used by big publications) makes them a PTB.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

It gets even worse down below.

In order to defend MBFC Jordan starts calling MondoWeiss antisemitic. Jordan quotes Zionist lobby sources to back up his claims, without any evidence of the antisemitism accusations except hearsay. Then refuses to engage when pressed on the issue.

https://lemmy.world/post/27393569/16039954

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 week ago

And even go on another anti blm rant

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

"We only allow reputable news sources! Now excuse me while I repeat a bunch of misinformation about BLM."

  • jordanlund
[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

it's not misinformation if the mbfc says it is a good source

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

Man, this instance is great way to find people who need to be blocked

[-] FundMECFSResearch 3 points 1 week ago

I think it’s both kind of YDI and clueless mod.

Because they’ve consistently enforced no substack as far as I’m aware.

But also, I think that they should make an exception for this case.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

There is no rule against substack nor against 'blogs' and dropsite is even approved by MBFC.

The mod is pulling rules out of thin air.

[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago
[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

put ![](link here) to embed gifs by the way :)

where it's typed like this:

![](https://media.tenor.com/6c5fmbFesL8AAAAM/boss-respect-me.gif)

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