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[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

You havent played the new AC because its woke.

I havent played it because its 70± dollars.

We are not the same.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I’ve played every one except for Mirage, paid like 10€ for every single one.

patientgamers ftw

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago

There is an old man in my building, who got into video games about 10 years ago, when his wife died. When I first moved in I played games with him fairly often. After I knew him about a year, he exposed himself as racist. So I just faded away from interacting with him, too old to bother lecturing, so I just stopped socializing with him. I do see him around, and we make small talk, in the halls, elevator, etc.

Anyway, now that you have context, I ran into him in the elevator when Shadows first came out. He said he had been playing it, and asked if I had. I said I didn't then told him I was a little surprised he bothered with it. He said "Cause you play a colored samurai?" I said that I figured it wouldn't be his thing, a lot of people didn't like the idea. He replied "He was a real person, though" I told him a lot of people were mad about it, he said "it's just a game". So, if a racist, 83 year old, man didn't see the issue here, these people have to be seeking things to be mad about. He doesn't do much online though. Only social media he does is look at FB when his kids tell him they posted new pics of the grand kids, or whatever. This is purely a symptom of being terminally online.

[-] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Everything that isnt about a straight white male plowing his sister is woke

[-] segabased@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

It's hard to overstate how true this statement is

Like of course racism is a huge issue in America and other European countries (not letting them off the hook here a lot of the anti woke commentary resides there) and that is where this comes from, but the outrage this game and others receive isn't organic.

So much money, effort and planning goes into manufacturing outrage that I don't believe you can feel strongly about these things and be "normal." These people are consuming media from ecosystems that are made to keep them mad and to feed them propaganda. It is no different with maga and fake news or really any other ideology that requires people to fully buy in and accept a reality that doesn't exist.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 228 points 4 days ago

If those Internet duds that get mad about black people in video games spent like half that energy being mad about, like, wage theft, we'd be so much better off.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 110 points 4 days ago

Therein lies the point of MAGA efforts. If you keep your base punching the left then they won’t remember they’re working class, not really being crushed by the left, and may start to punch up.

They’re already too scared to do in person town halls. Even so, this steered rage is intentional.

You’re not displaced by corporate, but by immigrants, DEI, and non-traditional women.

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[-] Caitlyynn 41 points 4 days ago

The culture war is made up to distract from the class war

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[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 49 points 3 days ago

It sucks that Yasuke is still experiencing racism 400 years after his death. I'm sure he wouldn't be surprised in the slightest.

[-] Obi@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

What a grim yet totally accurate way to think about it.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

He's fucking right. Normal people don't get their blood pressure up about "black people and women?! IN MY GAMES??"

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 47 points 3 days ago

If the bigots are hating Assassin's Creed and it makes news, then that means it's officially good. If it was bad, thr bigots don't make news since they get drowned out by everyone else saying it's bad. It's my new metric for whether or not something is worth watching/playing.

[-] prole 31 points 3 days ago

I, unironically, use this as a way of finding movies, TV shows and games that I might like.

If you go on RottenTomatoes and look at the critic score vs. the user score, you can really tell a lot.

For example, if a movie has a very low critic score, and a suspiciously high user score, it's most certainly religious drivel created to push a narrative. If you click on the reviews, it will confirm it. Every time.

Conversely, if a movie or show has a very high critic score, and a suspiciously low user score, it's going to be because of conservative snowflakes getting triggered. Again, reading the user reviews confirms it every time.

In the case of the latter, it almost always means I will enjoy the content. So I will seek out movies and shows that have that discrepancy.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 12 points 3 days ago

so... thoughts on the last jedi?

[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

Not the person you responded to, TLJ is easily my favorite of the three sequel movies. The Force Awakens and Rise of the Skywalker (I think?) both felt like focus group fanfiction slop; TLJ was the only one with anything meaningful to say at the end of the day.

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[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Even taking hyperbole into account, this is not a great metric and has not been bourne out in my experience.

What's a suspiciously high and low score?

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[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

There has been a bunch of media that warranted legitimate disdain, however the anti-woke angle was the biggest focus

[-] emmy67@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I wish more streamers had the guts to do this. Too many ride the line and just ignore this stuff. It gives the idiots permission to keep yapping about it. God at least have your mods ban people in chat for it v

[-] SleepyBear@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

Never heard of FightinCowboy before, but this is a streamer worth following it seems. Hes gained at least one new fan and i dont even really need to see his content. Stick to righteous principles and good will come to you.

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[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 25 points 3 days ago

cant wait for elder scrolls 6 to come out and have people mad because its based in hammerfell 😂

[-] Glitterbomb@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Can you imagine the outrage if they simply remade Morrowind?

"Bethesda has gone woke! Not only did they make the elves dark, but they made those same dark elves the slave owners! Literally unplayable!" Even Vivec having two different skin colors would melt their minds.

You think they'd be paying attention to the multi-toned skin, and not the fact that Vivec is a non-binary hermaphroditic god?

[-] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Don't worry, they are plenty capable of being mad at both

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 78 points 4 days ago

Just about everyone wants to see themselves in the main player character of an RPG. It’s one reason character creators exist. Why we can choose between male and female Shepard and then toggle their appearances. But why is it white men yell the loudest when they don’t see themselves in a fixed main character?

It’s a valid question. Sure there was an ask for female assassin play, but it wasn’t anything like this crude, angry, and off the rails epidemic we see far too often. Why is this population so loud and rage filled?

I happily play Witcher, and enjoy Geralt for who he is, including those tired sighs and the long hair that blows in a wind that’s not there. Geralt looks like he’s been torn off the cover of an old bodice ripper novel, which is a bit of an eye roll but adds to the humor. Even so. As a woman I had no problems with it or the game. I’ve played W3 through twice.

Enter Ciri as the main for the next game. Suddenly there’s a huge problem even though she’s the logical next Witcher. I’d like to know how she plays as a character outside the premade with gimped UI. The preview to 4 was nicely nuanced as well, a lot of detail packed into that clip apart from just simple spooky monster fighting. She clearly has a chip on her shoulder about life choices, and fair enough given her history.

Again, no raging outcry regarding Geralt or the way he looked for 3 installments. Now there’s outcry.

I’m not Japanese or Black and yet I’ll happily play this latest AC (but only after its old and goes on sale).

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 44 points 4 days ago

I always wanted to see anything else. I'm a human male every day. Give me a female and/or an alien or some other strange thing. Let's be different!

I never understand this need for people to mimic themselves.

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[-] libra00@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

This is the only way to combat that sort of thing. To keep it from happening in your communities, to call out the people who do it and shame them, and to make it clear that this is stupid online bullshit that no one should care about. Good on him.

[-] Bieren@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago

FC has some valid points. If I was a streamer of his level, it would get old as well. Imagine streaming a game. Having a good time, doing your thing. And then a bunch of people come into the stream. Voluntarily come into the stream. No one made them join his stream. And then stay there to complain about the game. Or the stream. Or one persons opinions. Like this random person, decided that they are going to go out of their way to complain about something they don’t like. And just bitch and complain about something they voluntarily decided to partake in. People need to find new hobbies and better ways to spend their time.

[-] base@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i dont get why you go out of your way not to mention the complaints were racist in nature. its not about some people complaining they dont like ac because its a mediocre franchise when it comes to gameplay or smth like that.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 46 points 4 days ago

My first guess: racist losers are mad that POC exist and are represented in video games.

...Yep. I was right, sadly.

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[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I feel like a huge portion of corporate America has adopted the following strategy:

  • Half ass a product despite a comically large budget, resulting in a product that ranges in quality from mediocre to downright terrible
  • Stick some culture war shit somewhere in the product
  • Expect reviewers to give you overwhelmingly positive reviews based off political virtue signaling
  • Put a magnifying glass on the vocal minority of genuinely toxic fans, so that you can claim everyone who doesn't like the mediocre product is toxic
  • bullshit about sales numbers
  • Obfuscate individual success/failures on earnings reports, and blame overall underperformance on "macroeconomic conditions"

Like at this point it's on me for engaging with these posts I guess.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

Stick some culture war shit somewhere in the product

you mean minorities?

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[-] ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bad take. You started from the assumption that normal people care about this shit. They categorically do not.

Watch cowboys video that /u/Noxy@pawb.social posted in this thread. He explains far better than i can that if there's a grift, it's from the people who make money manufacturing outrage.

PS i never knew cowboy was fucking jacked holy shit lol

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

It couldn't possibly be that making video games at that level is immensely complex and that normal people don't care about your "culture war".

Nope. Never. It's all a giant scam just to make racists angry.

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[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Sad to see that once again the nuances of the eastern perspective gets drowned out in the sea of tears western toddlers make.

Japan has every right to be upset about this game. Ubisoft has shown blatant disrespect towards the Japanese culture, history, and people.

But western eyes can't see culture; only color and gender.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

"Japan" isn't a monolith. And how would we feel if Americans got upset at spaghetti westerns?

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[-] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Japanese creators do not speak for the Japanese people. I could use your Asmongolds or Hasans to straw man any single argument about the West.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It gets better.

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Game is fine so far.

People get all in their feelings over a game. A story. Would they get this worked up over a book? These people have to bitch about something to feel alive.

I feel alive taking in a game how it was written and designed to be played. I don't worry about cultural norms or other petty bullshit. Enjoy the gameplay, the world design and a new experience.

Now, give me a Black Flag sequel with a female lead, a revamped ship combat and more pirate comedy. Top it off with some lesbien romance and outfits. Just to piss off the Republican snowflakes.

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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 31 points 4 days ago

This dude is so fucking based

And his followup video is great too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yentXt8qVvs

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[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 28 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

How many people raging about this probably played the shit outta San Andreas. Oohhhhhh but that's okay cause it fits their stereotype?

[-] misk@sopuli.xyz 29 points 4 days ago

Dedicated to the person complaining about racism against Japanese people under a post about how nice trees and hills look in AC: Shadows.

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[-] 50_centavos@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

I've been watching him for a while now for his Souls-like playlists. He doesn't really like playing Assassin's Creed type games but he'll do it out of popularity. Funny that this is the game he's going viral for.

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