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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 135 points 1 week ago

A bunch of schools get shot up, nothing happens.

A Tesla spontaneously catches fire, domestic terrorism!

[-] WarmRegards@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

A proper response from Burgerland.

'Murica!

[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

Not only schools, there are whole neighborhoods in most cities that are nothing less than a war zone with people involved being younger and younger. Why should gangs risk jail when they can recruit bored teens or tweens to do their dirty work and not be charged as adults?

But a few damaged Teslas are a problem?

[-] aaron@infosec.pub 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

Where are these neighborhoods? Do you know what urban warfare actually looks like? Have you seen footage of Gaza for example?

[-] dryfter@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

You make a good point. Maybe I’ve fallen into the trap of seeing street after street of boarded up buildings and hearing of houses being hit by stray bullets every couple of months and thinking it is a war zone.

I’ve never witnessed an actual war zone and can only go by images and videos I’ve seen. Maybe the better term is “areas with frequent gang activity that could mean innocent bystanders could get hit with a bullet”?

[-] j0ester@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Will somebody pleaseeee protect these corporations!!!!?

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

What do you mean nothing happens? The school shooters either end up in prison or dead.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 105 points 1 week ago

"Terrorism" has no meaning when it's used by a fascist terror state. It's always been just a political slur against the other team's violence.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 week ago

Not even violence. Against any dissenting thought.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

And not violence, when it comes to destroying inanimate objects

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

any criticism of the fascist state is the worst kind of violence and is obviously terrorism worthy of torture, or worse /s

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

In a Nazi government, "terrorism" is just another word for resistance. Just look what happened in Nazi Germany back then. Kids were executed for distributing pamphlets.

[-] fnrir 4 points 1 week ago

In Luigi we trust.

[-] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Laws should be applied equally. What's up with the J6 protesters? They get pardons, but if you touch a Tesla, 20 years in Gitmo,

Who's gonna stop this clown show? It's not gonna end in anything but bloodshed.

[-] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago

I'm worried MAGA has genuinely been working to make things so bad that the civil war they've been salivating for becomes the only possible outcome. I genuinely starting to wonder if we can restore any semblance of sanity to this country without violence entering the equation.

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago

Oh we're way beyond that point...

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 5 points 1 week ago

people forget Christians are a doomsday cult

they genuinely want the end of days, that's what their whole thing is about

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

It's literally legal to blow up a Tesla. Jan 6 pardons set the legal precedent that organized terrorism involving property damage is just fine. Carry on vandals. I do not condone or reject your actions but I do understand them to be legal.

[-] Steve@startrek.website 15 points 1 week ago

Crimes against persons/police officers were also pardoned

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

Important to remember this when we consider the relative morality of Tesla vandals. So far I haven't heard of anyone getting hurt so I think it's pretty mild.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Nope, it’s not legal to blow up a Tesla.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm legitimately confused. Why is this different than Jan6ers who were pardoned? I thought violent insurrection/protest was legal since Jan 6 2021. ELI5.

It's also illegal in some places to bring an orange into a bathtub, we use common law in the US so citing civil law statutes is not a valid argument.

I know you're a Russian shill based on your comment history, your home country follows civil law so perhaps that's confusing to you.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Pardons don't make the crime they committed legal.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

So being "legal" is meaningless then?

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I'm legitimately confused. Why is this different than Jan6ers who were pardoned? I thought violent insurrection/protest was legal since Jan 6 2021. ELI5.

Jan 6th benefits trump, torching teslas doesn't. His doj won't apply the laws equally, the rule of law is long dead in the US.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If the law is arbitrary then everything is legal.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I see it differently. If the law is arbitrary, only the things the leader wants its legal.

[-] misteloct@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Legal becomes a meaningless term then. If we can define words however I want my definition is equal.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

You can be pardoned for having done something illegal.

[-] aeternum 2 points 1 week ago

it's only legal if you are a MAGA cunt.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

Does insurance even pay out for "acts of terrorism"..?

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 44 points 1 week ago

Some interesting things came to my attention recently.

One, there was a headline about the guy who got caught setting fire to Teslas at a dealership, saying that he had caused "$5 million in damage." For setting a few things on fire? Really?

Then, my HOA insurance policy renewal came across my desk (for the HOA, I'm on the board). I'm looking over all the details in the quote and I find some things about a federal program to insure against terrorism. This section explained how, in 2020, the requirement that the perpetrator be a "foreign agent" was dropped. Guess what wasn't dropped: the requirement that the damage must be at least $5 million. There is a portion of the insurance premium that goes to pay for this program (its own insurance premium that's handled through the insurance company). It's $80/year.

Ever wonder why they're so keen on classifying these as terrorism? Sure, the authoritarianism is a big part of it, but the other part is that it lets them get paid more money, from the federal government. Call it terrorism, say there was more than $5M in damages, get paid.

[-] WhyDoYouPersist@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

This is incredibly insightful, thanks.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

As usual for pretty much anything in the US: follow the money. The dollar rules everything else.

[-] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 35 points 1 week ago

The domestic terrorism designation could give law enforcement sweeping authority to surveil people protesting against Elon Musk's role in the US federal government, civil liberties experts warn.

[-] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 week ago

Which is exactly why people were "this is going to bite us in the behind", when patriot act and so on was originally done and so on.

Way easier to change "who is terrorist", than "give us authorization to do this new thing" in the first place.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

It’s crazy that many provisions from the Patriot Act are still in effect today.

[-] Honse@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Yes everyone who plans to attend a Tesla Takedown protest should fully read effs guide to attending a protest. Protect yourself from political retaliation by staying anonymous!

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It matters because ya'll hurting wannabe Lex Luther whose face is being eaten by leopards.

Fuck Elon.

[-] Dragomus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Everything is terrorism to the fearful ones at the top...

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago

Burn a few and get a little satisfaction. Burn some more and you get some more satisfaction. Burn 'em all and you get complete satisfaction.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago

Automate their burnination and you get a satisfactory!

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 1 week ago

Burn 1 its vandalism Burn 10000 its a statistic

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