Is Biden compromised or something? He doesn’t seem to realize that his name is fucking poison to dems and reps alike. Why is he so intent on fucking us over more? You destroyed us. Fuck off.
Oh Fuck Off you doddering old fool that gave us Trump.
Ah Americans blaming everyone but themselves who voted him in. Yes you might not have but as a whole the American people did or choose to sit out.
No. Thanks for your service blah blah blah, but his generation of limp dick, self serving moldy dinner rolls are what got us here in the first place. Take Chuck and Hakeem with you
No. Please enjoy your retirement.
The Bidens need to stay the fuck out. For good. You killed your own political dynasty, dipshit. Stay down.
Edit: Jesus fuck, what a complete tool:
Former President Joe Biden has told some Democratic leaders he’ll raise funds, campaign and do anything else necessary for Democrats to recover lost ground
Really? You’ll do anything to recover the ground YOU lost? Except keep your promise to not campaign for another term? Or listen to constituents instead of consultants? Or do anything meaningful to preemptively stop fascism? Or bow out of the presidential campaign when it becomes painfully obvious that you have neither the temperament or mental acuity for the situation at hand? Or relinquish control of a presidential campaign that isn’t yours anymore? Or-
You get the idea.
Stay down, Biden. Your “help” looks a whole fucking lot like leading lambs to the slaughter. Nobody wants you or your help.
You people really need to go and build a third party, one that actually is everything the republicans accuse the democrats of being.
Biden had his chance and squandered it by failing to build any trust with the voting public. We need a completely new generation of leadership and that includes house and senate leadership.
No. If you want to be useful, convince some other dinosaur Dems to retire.
Fuck off, Joe. You've done enough damage. Go away.
The only way he could help is if he invented a time machine and went back in time to convince himself to announce he isn't going to pursue a second term in 2022. Or immediately stop supplying Israel with bombs after it became clear they weren't going to stop. Or better yet, go back to 2020 and don't screw Bernie out of winning the nomination. Selfish prick.
He's likely not even aware that he was president.
"One term."
It physically hurts me to think about the number of times here, on this platform, people tried to gaslight us on this.
First it never happened.
Then, when we showed them the interview where he said it, we were told it was just "misconstruing" what Biden said.
Then, it wasn't a campaign promise.
Then, when in 2024 when Biden confirmed it was a campaign promise, it didn't matter, because "beating Trump" was too important; but if "beating Trump" was so important, then why were they insisting on sticking with Biden?
I just. Sometimes I can't even.
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. His heart sank as he thought of the enormous power arrayed against him, the ease with which any Party intellectual would overthrow him in debate, the subtle arguments which he would not be able to understand, much less answer. And yet he was in the right! They were wrong and he was right.
It sucks that the Democrats are the Republican party of 2012.
And Democrats will soon be the Republican Party of 2016.
Already are in a lot of aspects.
At last someone has answered the call for new, young leaders with fresh ideas.
Holy shit! He's still alive?
Feinstein kept going years after her death.
ITT thread - lots of folks downvoting the folks rightly condemning Biden, but strangely no one showing up to debate them. 🤔
Just to be pedantic on the internet, it's ITT: In This Thread. ITT thread is like saying ATM machine.
More neoliberalism isn't gonna fix jack shit. It'll barely float Canada for the next 4 years ffs.
Yeah, of course. The way forward is relying on failed gerontocrats.
The headline is disingenuously framed. He isn't saying he's gearing up for a presidential bid. He's saying he'll throw his weight in to build up support for the party. Idk that that'll do any good, but it isn't a bad thing for him to do necessarily.
He's an established guy who a lot of moderates and libs have historically liked. Plus, I guarantee he knows a lot of big money donors who he might be able to convince to put their money toward a more progressive candidate - that could be useful if he was willing to support a more progressive direction & agenda. Now will he do that or just insist on more of the same bullshit that ran the party into the ground...? Seems like he might not exactly have his finger on the dying pulse of american democracy, so to speak
Yeah I'm mostly in agreement with everyone that Biden ain’t it, but damn it’s nice to see a past president willing to help.
Historically is doing a lot of work there. Remember the 2020 primary? Because like half the early primary was moderates looking for a better candidate than the default pick. His events were weakly attended and his fundraising was mediocre.
But more importantly, not all help is beneficial. Once you've got enough stink on you, being a public face of the party isn't necessarily helping it. I still maintain Nancy Pelosi, with her stock trading, billionaire heiress weddings, kente cloth kneeling, and left punching was a drag on the party. She reminded a lot of people about their negative opinions of the party every time she was in the headlines.
And I think Biden's the same. He's weak, old, delusional, and status quo, and above all he's heavily responsible for our loss. The more the party props up old leaders just because they were leaders, the less it speaks to being able to make the changes needed to win.
It's not the funding that's the problem, it's the credibility and trust that the Dems have cratered that needs repairing.
What I would give for some actual leftists who are tough.
We need a younger bernie who is more aggressive. Shut the fuck up about woke and LGBT stuff. Speak only about how billionaires and corporations and wall street are exploiting the poor and working class.
Tax the billionaires. Support the Working class. Accountability for the rich. No more of this laws are only for the poor nonsense.
Free Healthcare. Free college/university. Free meals for kids in schools. Fund our fucking public schools. Make the rich pay for it or they can get the fuck out.
Shut the fuck up about woke and LGBT stuff.
So win by throwing the rights of the queer community and minorities to the dogs?
I understand your frustration here. You and the minority communities do matter! With that said, the only way for you to have recognition and equality is to overthrow those in power. Those in power use you and other minorities as sock puppets pandering to wedge issues. While wedge issues are important to you and I, they are meaningless to those that use them to divided us.
If you let them keep using you as their wedge issue you can expect nothing but quarter measures and lip service in return. They need you to be that wedge issue to continue their robbery. You are being used, and as long as your useful nothing will materially change for you. You will be pulled left to right with every administration shift, never getting anything you need and deserve.
What matters to those in power is money. That's it. Right and left alike. Nothing else! Not you or any minority or what you/they/I care about will change while these kinds of people are in power.
I'm not saying to put your priorities on the back burner. I'm saying we have to come together to burn the fascists down to get what we want together. Money out of politics is the only avenue for any change. That might have to be the only priority for a moment til we have a functioning government that has the power to actually change all our lives for the better.
That might have to be the only priority for a moment til we have a functioning government that has the power to actually change all our lives for the better.
That got us Hillary instead of Bernie, then Biden instead of Bernie. And this thinking exactly perpetuates the ratchet effect. We always have to win just a little harder, then we can change what matters. THAT is what got us here.
I am NOT queer, nor a minority. I'm among the very last group of people that will be sent to the camps. But my values don't require me to be personally affected to stand firm by my fellow humans.
Edited to add:
But if I were a member of one of those groups, I'd probably be pretty upset that you are telling me I should treat my very existence as a "wedge issue" to be avoided. I won't go further for fear of putting words in someone's mouth.
That a bit crazy, they are wedge issues. The consultants red and blue have defined them so..
The left and the right pay consulting firms hundreds of millions to devise ways to create/use these "wedge issues" to divide us. That's the game. Keep you fighting over these issues and never doing anything meaningful to change things. Puppets and pawns.
The only game that will ever make any meaningful change is the money game! That's the only game that matters to them and the only one we need to win for all the wedge issues to be treated as real life issues.
We cannot have a functional democracy any other way. It is the only issue that will be able to bring about any meaningful change.
Don't let these think tanks divide and blind you or you risk just being the latest fad en vogue "wedge issue" political prop. Doomed to be used till your usefulness runs its course and they latch on the next whilst you get nothing in return. That's the plan all along.
I absolutely stand by the lgbt peoples as I stand by the others marginalized by society. What I'm saying was pretty fucking clear! If you want real lasting change there is only one real issue that matters. We have to break the money system. Or else nothing changes ever!
What got us Hillary not Bernie was the DNC, the same people that use the marginalized as props for political gain. People should have figured that out by now, if they are paying attention. The neoliberal right wing democrats! They own the DNC! They despise their own constituency. They loathe anyone that challenge their money making machine.
Your opinion is garbage. Support for LGBTQ+ rights didn’t alienate anyone who wasn’t already a garbage person.
It was also practically non-existent in the most recent Democratic campaign, but this guy still wants to scapegoat it as the cause of our doom. Somehow I'm not confident his concept of "true leftists" really do hold this as a core principle when it's a priority to purge them for expediency at the first opportunity.
It's almost exactly the message of the shitty centrists just with a left (trust me bro) window dressing and both deserve the same amount of respect. They're just being practical.
Nope. Stay home
The weird nerd model UN kids who are excited to meet Biden are the same as the weird nerds who run the party.
Just go away Biden! You have left your mark on the world, let a newer and younger generation with sane policies take over.
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