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[-] pachrist@lemmy.world 173 points 1 week ago

Do you think there's a 13 year old girl in Gaza who is writing a diary that will be widely read by children across the world 40-50 years from now?

[-] FireAtWill@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Do you really think it makes a difference?

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 80 points 1 week ago

Maybe, but it will probably be destroyed by carpet bombing before anyone sees it.

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[-] JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

It's 2025, the teenagers mostly document their lives on social media. Tent life guy from Gaza got killed but there are others.

When this empire falls and the genocide history is able to be taught then yes I think some of these video records will be studied by children around the world.

[-] BlackSheep@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago

Well, with the way things are going, it won’t be read in the U.S.A. It’ll be banned.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago

Don't worry, the US won't exist in 40-50 years.

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[-] FreeHat@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

Maybe, but the IDF will definitely burn anything they find, don't want more records of their crimes where they can avoid it

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[-] PointyReality@lemmy.world 131 points 1 week ago

I would love to come across one of the voters that voted for the orange fascist because they thought Kamala would be worse for the Palestines somewhere in the wild. It would be incredible to see if they still feel strongly about it now.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

Most just abstained, voters who actually switched sides don't exist imo. If you voted trump last election, you never would have voted kamala even if she actually tried to win.

That being said, I can't really blame people for drawing the line at genocide of all things. The dems thought they had an easy win so they decided to represent genocide instead of us, the voters. I still voted for them regardless but it felt altogether gross. It shouldn't feel that way, they are supposed to be the good ones.

I don't think we should condone the behavior by pivoting the blame to voters, who are just trying to be heard since clearly the democratic party has stopped listening.

[-] rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago

Most just abstained

An abstain from voting is a vote that says "I'm fine with anyone or everyone". An abstain is a vote that says "I am complacent to the outcome".

If you want to protest, if nothing else, write in.

I can’t really blame people for drawing the line at genocide of all things

They didn't draw the line at genocide. If you stand and watch and do nothing you are complicit in the genocide.

[-] LadyAutumn 30 points 1 week ago

I'll quote another comment of mine in this same thread.

The majority of people who fell into this camp of refusing to vote for her were Palestinians. They had every right not to vote for someone who openly said she would continue to fund and arm the people killing their families and utterly destroying their communities. The correct thing was always for the Democrats to support human rights globally, to stand firmly against colonialism and stand with the Palestinians. They refused to do that. It’s honestly incredibly gross to find fault with people refusing to politically support people who are explicitly involved in the destruction of their people.

The continuing refusal of liberals to have any empathy for Palestinians is entirely emblematic of the failures of the democratic party. Over and over and over again you will compromise on genocide, compromise on human rights itself, to defend the disgusting political decisions of the democratic establishment. It's never the fault of the democratic establishment for funding and arming a genocide, it's always the fault of the minorities who wouldn't vote for a party support the killing of their families and razing of their communities. How in god's name do you plan to fight against fascism if you can't even stand against racist colonialist ideology in the political party you support?

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] toofpic@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Uh..I'm sorry to tell you, but republicans and Trump won. Everything that is happening right now is happening under republican rule. Sitting in your own piss abd blaming others don't work anymore!

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris? Agent Orange is now bombing the ruins of Genocide Joe. Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 week ago

Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.

Correction: she would let Israel do as it pleases without officially cheering them on.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago

Liberals will jump up and down at handwringing genocide versus full blown genocide due to this weird utilitarianism they're clinging to as their empire crumbles.

Biden's constituents wanted an end to the genocide in Gaza. Biden ignored these constituents. Biden lost. That is how democracy works, and this outcome was more American than apple pie.

Screw the liberals who say that withholding votes to pressure politicians (the entire point of a democracy) is somehow fascist.

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[-] PointyReality@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

Biden was pressuring Israel to act but also to do so with civilians in mind and to allow humanitarian efforts or risk getting cut off from military aid. Also the line that Kamala most probably would have towed as well. This is for those familiar with global politics is expected between long standing allies ( something Trump is currently failing at every stage currently). Meanwhile Orange Musolini has basically said “Have at it, also that spot there would be great for a hotel”. So I fail to see how you could even compare the two. But sure I guess if you happened to fail to grasp the nuance in global politics.

Unless you happened to have another point to make that is more substantive then “bOth PaRtIeS”.

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[-] GreyAlien@lemm.ee 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Post about israel stating they will exterminate Palestinians

You: it’s because of leftists and muslims and communists and santa maybe batman too.

Way to subtly change the subject and optics. Why don’t you focus on the fact that the United States is currently aiding and supporting a genocide that has been unfolding for the last 70 years? I’m not american and I would have voted for Harris if I was one, but you are disgraceful for using minorities like tokens you can use and throw as you please, I’m quite certain that even if all of them voted for Harris, trump would still have been elected due to your f***** up gerrymandering policy. Putting the blame on hundreds of thousands and not on the millions of apolitical voters is MAGA level nonsense.

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[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago

I didn’t vote for Trump but let’s not pretend that Harris was going to stop it as she didn’t distance herself from Biden on this issue. Biden had 15 months and he didn’t, not even symbolically at the UN choosing to veto ceasefire, vote against Palestinian right to self determination and continue sending Israel weapons.

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[-] LadyAutumn 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I have no idea what you're on about vis a vis voted for Trump believing he'd be better for Palestine. A minority people refused to vote Kamala because of her open support of genocide, but that doesn't mean they voted for Trump.

In either case, why is it their fault and not the fault of the democratic establishment exactly? Shouldn't your ire be for establishment democrats who refused to stop supporting a genocide? They could've done that, you know. This might blow your fucking mind but democrats can actually do stuff. No one was holding Kamala secretly at gun point and forcing her to support genocide. She refused to stop and instead parroted the usual talking points of Israel's "right to defend itself." Shouldn't that be the subject of your anger and frustration? Shouldn't you be furious at the democratic establishment becoming more and more conservative as time goes on? Shouldn't you be outraged at the way democrats persecute the progressive elements within their own political party? Instead of angry at the handful of people who tried to make their voices heard on the subject of literally funding and arming genociders?

Like what the fuck do you think political change within the democratic party looks like? Do you think that defending the establishment from anything and everything is how you get them to change? As each successive administration comes and goes the democrats have moved further and further to the right. They are well into conservative territory ideologically, and that should be immediately obvious to anyone paying attention. Gavin Newsom outright supported wild transphobia like forcing trans women into men's prisons just last week. And he's not the only one who's done this. The democratic party is not a party of progressives. They only support minorities until they feel it inconveniences them in any way.

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[-] meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 123 points 1 week ago
[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately, I'm fully capable of comprehending this.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 108 points 1 week ago

Israel should be dismantled. They are a genocidal state and deserve no statehood.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No state "deserves" statehood. Statehood should be dismatled.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 39 points 1 week ago

Fuck these fake borders dividing the people against each other.

Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was Same as it ever was

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[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 80 points 1 week ago

This message is literally saying, "dismantle your military, and we will ethnically cleanse you."

[-] frezik@midwest.social 28 points 1 week ago

"Attention Bajoran workers" energy.

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[-] hark@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago

"return the hostages and kick out Hamas, and new options will open for you--including relocation to other parts of the world for those who choose. The alternative is destruction and total devastation."

So the choice is either ethnic cleansing with some genocide or ethnic cleansing with total genocide. This is completely unacceptable, yet there are those who argue that we must accept it and merely choose "the lesser of two evils" with the reason being that it could be worse. However, this only emboldens the evil and they will continue driving to make things worse and worse anyway.

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[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 70 points 1 week ago

Most of Palestinians are under the age of 18. Basically telling a bunch of kids he's going to kill them.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 52 points 1 week ago

This is a fact I try to bring up often... It's a truly disturbing piece of information

Also, they're struggling to survive without enough supplies, they're being cut off from the Internet and power in part so they can't get their message to the world, and they couldn't kick out Hamas if they wanted to - they have no organization or individual power to actually do that

So it's worth considering...who is this message for?

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[-] UpperBroccoli 60 points 1 week ago

Yeah actually, that's genocide.

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[-] SolidShake@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago

don't forget about peace day 1 you guys.

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[-] Cocopanda@futurology.today 42 points 1 week ago

Israeli’s are blood thirsty monsters. Prove me wrong.

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago

The entire country is sick. The ones in power need to be held accountable and the population as a whole needs a "Denazification". Something that will require generations of reeducation to undue the fascist ethnostate that has indoctrinated children from birth.

Separating this Fascist state from Jewish identity is one of the most important things to do as well. One of the most antisemitic things being done today is when Israel commits genocide and pretends it is doing it for Jews. It is disgusting.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago

If Israel and Russia can get away with it, then too the USA, and this is the ultimate goal: taking back the world to the days of "territorial conquests".

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 33 points 1 week ago

Israel killing civilians at random probably isn't going to help bring the average Palestinian to their side against Hamas. If they were being nice to the civilians they might actually be willing to help you.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

This might come as a surprise but Israel wants to kill all Palestinians and steal their land. Not "beat Hamas".

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 week ago

The IAF blew up 400 men, women and children and today Netanyahu said, "this is only the beginning."

You can get deported from the US now for pointing that out.

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