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Israel publicly announces genocidal intent
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Uh..I'm sorry to tell you, but republicans and Trump won. Everything that is happening right now is happening under republican rule. Sitting in your own piss abd blaming others don't work anymore!
Do you realize that Gaza has been completely flattened under Kamala Harris? Agent Orange is now bombing the ruins of Genocide Joe. Kamala would be doing the exact same thing as Donald Trump.
Correction: she would let Israel do as it pleases without officially cheering them on.
Liberals will jump up and down at handwringing genocide versus full blown genocide due to this weird utilitarianism they're clinging to as their empire crumbles.
Biden's constituents wanted an end to the genocide in Gaza. Biden ignored these constituents. Biden lost. That is how democracy works, and this outcome was more American than apple pie.
Screw the liberals who say that withholding votes to pressure politicians (the entire point of a democracy) is somehow fascist.
I don't think anyone is saying it's fascist. Just that it's fucking stupid.
Big difference!!! We don't need to hear what they gonna do, it's easier to ignore when they told us nothing!
I think you've got your flashcards mixed up, comrade. You meant "Genocide Joe."
Words are hard, especially English with all the "yours" and "theres" but keep trying!
This has to be my favorite tactic: ignore every actual, thoughtful reply that contains points you cannot refute, and instead find the one snarky reply that was never meant to be informative or change anyone's opinion, and reply to that one pretending that the position is weak because it's the only response.
Classic move.
Yes, the vice president controls the military. For sure, the military of another country. The tie vote for the senate, yeah ok.
Where was the Palestinian on stage at the DNC?
Huh. Didn’t realize Harris got elected. Someone should tell orangeboi.
Seriously dude: your first sentence is fully nonsense.
When was that "under Kamala"? Is it in this room with us right now?
I might have bad news for you
Spare us your piffle.
Uh huh.... She would be talking about building a golf course over the ruins of Gaza? You sure about that?
Is building a golf course your red line, not genocide?
Straw man city. You motherfuckers just cannot help it.
What does it say about the strength of one's position when you have to, so frequently, resort to straw manning?
I'll take my answer off the air.
Donald Trump says a lot of things. What he did was get them two months of relative peace. That would not have happened under Kamala, there would be no intermission to "resume" bombing from, there would just still be bombing. If Kamala wanted those voters then she should have broke from Biden's support of Israel, which she did not do and is not how you get a ceasefire done with Israel. No, what she said is that we would have the "most lethal military" in the face of Palestinians her campaign blocked from speaking at the DNC. Biden said he had red lines, but never did anything when Israel crossed them.
That is how democracy works, you have to earn votes. "Vote for me or else" is not a fucking popular platform for what should be very obvious reasons.
Is it really more important to you to attack these voters and hold back the discourse, over 4 months after the election, as your government is breaking every rule in the book and your party is playing right along with it? The election result is not going to change no matter how many people you throw under the bus for it. These are the cards you were dealt, it's time to move on and play spades.
It must feel empowering to only hold positions that are impossible to prove or disprove. Super brave.
Meanwhile, anyone living in the real world that is actually paying attention knows that what is happening now (in the US and in Gaza) is not normal and is not what any Democratic President would be doing. You are only embarrassing yourself when you pretend otherwise.
Biden was pressuring Israel to act but also to do so with civilians in mind and to allow humanitarian efforts or risk getting cut off from military aid. Also the line that Kamala most probably would have towed as well. This is for those familiar with global politics is expected between long standing allies ( something Trump is currently failing at every stage currently). Meanwhile Orange Musolini has basically said “Have at it, also that spot there would be great for a hotel”. So I fail to see how you could even compare the two. But sure I guess if you happened to fail to grasp the nuance in global politics.
Unless you happened to have another point to make that is more substantive then “bOth PaRtIeS”.
May you live in interesting times.
Hold up, let me get this straight: the people who didn’t vote for Harris caused the genocide that was already going on in Gaza, because Trump was elected. But also when Biden was president there was nothing he could have possibly done to stop the genocide that was happening in Gaza?
No, they didn't apply any genuine pressure, just empty rhetoric while continuing to provide billions worth of weapons unconditionally while Netanyahu ignored every "red line" with zero consequences. Biden is a self-proclamed Zionist, he had no issue with the genocide. All the empty rhetoric was just theater
Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
Reduce the influence of parties by passing state level electoral reform. Replace of First-past-the-post voting, use a voting system that let's voters transfer their vote if their first pick didn't win. Give 3rd parties the opportunity to participate without a spoiler effect.
You do support democracy right?
May I ask what you wrote has to do with anything about the article or what I wrote?
idiot
They're not comparing the two. They're equating them. Comparing is what you're doing. It's a good thing. You compared them and decided Trump is worse. The spy you're talking to won't compare them, and that's bad.
You are correct, I should have said equating them towards the end of my point. You are also correct that the opposing side always equates both political sides as essentially the same while failing to recognise the stark differences between them. Although both sides are not perfect, it’s not a nuanced difference like it was before MAGA crazy took over.
Selling lgbt people, ethnic minorities, immigrants, poor people dependent on social programs only to gain... nothing. What a deal...
First they came for the Palestinians. And you did not speak out because you are not a Palestinian.
We absolutely spoke up you fucking dolt
WTF why didn't the candidates care? Maybe we need to vote Blue No Matter Who even harder.
No, we did speak up. We just also understand basic causality.
Edgy? How is that edgy or showing an intention of being edgy? Weird deflection attempt tbh
Eh? Bro, what? You ok?
Holy shit do you have a camera that takes photos of alternate timelines?
Were you not here for the last year of Biden's presidency or something?
You wear a collar.