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A controversial proposal from U.S Secretary of Health and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to let bird flu naturally spread through poultry farms is raising alarms among scientists -- who say the move could be inhumane and dangerous.

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[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I knew he was just a huge shill for the reptile egg shadow industry. Before you know it, all US omelets will be made from factory-farmed sea turtle eggs.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

the worm egg industry, he needs everyone to have worms.

[-] lennee@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

Do you want another pandemic? Because that is how you get another pandemic.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I've contracted covid twice. Both were when visiting the US. And that was before this numpty was in charge. This will not go well.

[-] tiefling 1 points 1 day ago

Any random person in the US has probably had COVID at least four times by now

[-] JoeTheSane@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

I still have not gotten it. I was very conscientious about masks and social distancing and even have my vaccinations up to date just in case. But, I haven’t masked or social distanced in a long time, so now I’m just running on luck I guess.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Well, there it is. Life will... find a way.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Such a fantastic idea. This man is a genius.

[-] ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

And a stable genius at that!

[-] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 day ago

I made a joke about this in a German community and yet here we are. Satire is dead, murdered by the imbeciles in the Trump administration.

https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/17051036

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago

are poultry prices going up like egg prices are in the states?

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, they're different chickens and the virus has been spreading more through egg laying chickens. In part because they're in different locations.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Let him visit one of these farms for a good few days.

[-] arotrios@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Do you want plague chickens? Because this how you get plague chickens.

[-] tyrant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Historically this strategy hasn't really worked out so well for the masses...

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

not paywalled for me: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/18/health/kennedy-bird-flu.html

preserve the birds, that are immune to it

I still don't like the everyone get measles version of this.

willing to really try this on a pilot as we build the safe perimeter around them to see if there is a way forward with immunity

"pilot with safe perimeter" seems reasonable, as long as safe perimeter works. Bird flu is endemic already, afaik. = "will remain a constant presence". It only makes sense for domestic chickens/fowls. It is not endemic yet in other animals/humans, and maximum quick containment seems like only approach to keep it that way.

Bird flu not being a problem in countries that have smaller flocks, seems a transformative solution.

I didn't like the rebuttals in my link above. One of them says that the best thing for you/chickens is "to have a central authority decide to cull you minimizing for a balance of cost and your pain, instead of giving you the chance/choice of either surviving, or far more likely, suffering before death." I would choose the 2nd option, but can only do so under central authority that has already decided what it prefers.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I can't read this because fuck nyt, but wtf @

I didn't like the rebuttals in my link above. One of them says that the best thing for you/chickens is "to have a central authority decide to cull you minimizing for a balance of cost and your pain, instead of giving you the chance/choice of either surviving, or far more likely, suffering before death." I would choose the 2nd option, but can only do so under central authority that has already decided what it prefers.

Like what? Who is saying this to the person that is "you" in this scenario? Wtf? Absolute fucking non starter. I'm not choosing shit, fuck that we're not doing that.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The rebuttals for a pilot included that if you cull the whole flock, when signs of avian flu in part of the flock, then you are killing all of the chickens humanely instead of the large majority dying in pain from likely getting the flu. You are the chicken whose death is being decided from above.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Holy fuck that's grim. I didn't pick up what you meant at first my bad but I get it now. You're saying if this is their tactic for the birds, and "let 'er rip" is policy for covid for humans then it's going to be somewhere between "many if not most folks have multiple nontraumatic brain injuries now and autoimmune conditions that are [as I understand it] equivalent to developing AIDS in much shorter time and more" and "we will forcibly cull the herd to protect the future of the project".

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