does anyone buy a product for AI or Assistant features?
Some people bought scam pins/portable assistant that is actually a butchered phone thing, so, yeah.
Tech bros and "influencers" don't count. We're talking about real people. All of those devices failed because no one other than those seeking to ride the bleeding edge of technology actually are interested. The most anyone want Siri or Google Assistant to do is set alarms, set appointments, and pick-up/hang-up the phone when you're on speaker. Sometimes it's nice to ask it to do a search but the original versions of these did that fine until they started "improving" them with "AI".
Marketing over promising and making it developments problem. A tale as old as time.
Siri is so useless. All these years and I use her to basically set timers and reminders.
Sure, here's a station just for you.
SIRI CANCEL
I’ve added limes to the grocery list
A) No executives anywhere are taking personal accountability for anything
B) I upgraded from the 12 to the 16 for Apple Intelligence and I have yet to see it offer value. A substantial portion of hey Siri voice requests return with “I’m sorry I didn’t get that” even when using the voice transcription feature gets the words right
This is what happens when you get pressure to please shareholders instead of customers. Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time. But caught with their pants down during the AI hype, they fell into the trap so many other tech companies do. (Tesla is the undisputed heavyweight champ here)
Now that they’ve been burned by all this, here’s hoping they learn from it and return to form.
Historically, Apple has been good about revealing and delivering at the same time.
I'm not so sure about that. MobileMe, iTunes Ping, Vision Pro, and AirPower (their wireless charging pad) come to mind.
"You're holding it wrong"
All of these things except the AirPad were released at about the same time they were announced. That’s what I was getting at.
Apple has had so many misses recently. The current AI stuff, Vision Pro and maybe the 16e (too early to tell) form stuff that has released. But also this Siri AI, Air Power wireless charging pad, Apple Car project.
The Apple Watch is probably the last hit they had (the M series chips are good but not really new products, but maybe that’s me being overly harsh)
This whole thing is a textbook example of how bad shady marketing today and can really cause you a lot of pain tomorrow. If Apple had not been so quick to let PR write checks their ass was not ready to cash the conversation around Siri would still just be the casual jokes about it sucking, and not more serious public blackeyes.
The whole industry is a shit show right now with the "AI race"
I don't want to be a software developer anymore because it's become a permanent deathmarch toward the next buzzword.
We just had a town hall with our CEO and they came right out and said we need to simultaneously add AI and not add AI to our products, because customers are both excited and nervous about it. Our competitors are putting "AI" everywhere in their marketing, while we're just trucking along making a quality product.
Our software works in a very dangerous environment, where mistakes could cost millions in damage and potentially risk human lives. So the end user just sees "AI" as a liability. But the decision makers as to what product to use are removed from conditions on the ground and respond well to marketing BS.
We actually do use AI with some parts of the product (e.g. curve fitting on past data for better predictions), but we need to be very careful about how we advertise that.
It's dumb. Just pick the product based on what fits your operations best, don't pick based on buzzwords...
they should embrace it and be the anti AI tech giant
Hell, if they genuinely do that, I might even consider switching sides.
There stock would fall. I don't care but investors would fear Apple is missing out on the future.
‘It’s still in development’ doesn’t strike me as “dire.”
Dire as in, it was supposed to ship 6 months ago as the highlight of the iPhone 16 series.
Dear god!! The end is nigh!!
When it falls into false advertising in every market that the iPhone is sold, it is.
Terrible voice assistant. I preferred Google assistant, but even that is becoming slow.
Ok… this is what it is I suppose, every business wants to be on the AI train, but, this seems like an opportunity to make the next iPhone, or at least a version of it, without AI as a selling point.
I’d be very happy indeed to have an option that was entirely devoid of, and incompatible with, any form of AI and I know I’m not alone in that. Sell it as prioritizing privacy or respecting consumers desire to opt out, whatever the marketing folks come up with. But that would be my next phone in a heartbeat.
That is not going to happen.
Def not, but I’ll keep day dreaming :)
I can run an LLM on a phone from before the AI craze, it would be slow but it would still run. You can't really make a phone that isn't compatible with AI.
"Taking personal accountablility", but not a paycheck.
I don't fucking want AI in my phone, so take it out and be done with it.
Apple Intelligence hasn't been much better than old Siri on unsupported devices.
For a third of the time, she has a hard time recognizing the trigger word the first time (usually "Siri" rather than "Hey Siri"), and not perform my commands when all I want her to do is act as a voice-activated light switch.
What exactly is the trillion dollar company struggling with here?
Honestly I don’t really want a smart context-aware Siri, I just want something I can give simple, straightforward voice commands to, and get predictable, reliable results.
Interesting timing, where I’m seeing the opposite. All my Amazon devices suddenly can’t turn on a simple light switch, and one appears to have somehow factory reset.
However Siri works perfectly. I use a button rather than wake word, but then it dies actually turn on my light
AI isn’t the answer. Plain and simple.
LLMs aren't the answer. *
LLMs are the question, "no" is the answer.
How is this bad news? Dire situation?? They are not where they want to be with this “feature” so they delay it. Sounds like a smart move. Probably second best option to just dropping it
Biggest issue is they had a huge marketing campaign based on all these things Apple Intelligence could do, with dates saying when it will come and that you needed to buy the newest iPhone for them to happen. Those dates have come and gone and still no signs of it. If the next iPhone comes out and they still haven't released it, they risk a huge lawsuit of mis-advertising. It doesn't matter whether users use the feature or not, it was advertised, and very directly.
Normally, Apple is cautious/careful how they phrase things about their devices so they could back away if something doesn't go right or doesn't do what was suggested/implied. But they can't this time.
A while ago I set up a Siri shortcut that opens ChatGPT in voice mode. Now I can just say “hey siri, ask the demon” and in a moment start talking to ChatGPT with no further commands and zero buttons pressed throughout. It answers in voice mode.
This is pretty useful for things like doing units conversions while my hands are sticky during cooking, or just doing simple information lookups while my hands are busy. I use ChatGPT responsibly, never trusting it for things that aren’t one-dimensional information retrievals and summarization. It works great for me for like 50-60% of the things I used to Google. Internet search is, once again, just for finding websites, like it should be.
What’s my point? We don’t need Siri Apple Intelligence to ship. There’s already something better. And it runs on my iPhone 14, which isn’t even compatible with Apple Flatulence.
I’ve never used Apple intelligence and Siri alone has done a fine job for unit conversions, info lookups, and most any other things. No need to fire up chat GPT for those basic uses
Anyone who isn't completely high from huffing AI brainfarts saw this coming.
I don't want that on my phone. I just want a dumb program that sets alerts and schedules, I don't want it interpreting information and I doubt most people really need that function on a phone.
I can careless for Ai Siri. There’s no real need. I barely use Siri anyways.
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