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Summary

Wisconsin resident Bradley Bartell voted for Trump's promise to crack down on "criminal illegal immigrants," but now his Peruvian wife Camila Muñoz has been detained by ICE.

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa but had applied for legal residency. On their way home from a honeymoon, immigration agents detained her at a Puerto Rico airport.

Despite no criminal record, she remains in a Louisiana detention center. Her case reflects ICE’s broadened enforcement that now includes documented immigrants.

Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, now questions the impact on families like his own.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 308 points 4 weeks ago

You shouldn't have to have it happen to you before you realize the impact it has on others, but that's what we're up against.

[-] sowitzer@lemm.ee 49 points 4 weeks ago

From the article I don’t get a sense he is at all questioning his vote. He feels his case is special and the government messed up. For him. She’s vetted, so it’s ok. The others deserve what they are getting.

[-] Astra@lemmy.ml 58 points 4 weeks ago

Yep. Brackets by me:

[Him and his wife] have been thinking a lot about [his] vote for Trump.

"I knew they were cracking down," he said. "I guess I didn’t know how it was going down."

He imagined the administration would target people who snuck over the border and weren't vetted

But his wife, "they know who she is and where she came from," he said. "They need to get the vetting done and not keep these people locked up. It doesn’t make any sense."

The dumbfuck doesn't show any contrition at all, he just says oops I didn't know. When this topic came up in the interview, he didn't admit any regret or that he put himself (and his wife) in this position - he just says that the government is wrong to do this to him/his wife, and that they should go after other illegals instead. What a piece of shit.

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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 26 points 4 weeks ago

My sister in law's family are all El Salvadorian refugees in Houston. Everyone under 50 are citizens now, but las abuelitas are not. They were all massive Trump supporters hoping that he will kick out "all the illegals" but are convinced that their grandparents wont be deported, and that they might be able to bring in more family.

Juxtapose that to my family, where my English mom was naturalized 20 years ago after coming to the US on a green card. My family have always been pro-immigrarion since we would never dream of denying someone the same opportunity that we were given. We are all ao flabbergasted by it, but they all love Bukele as well, so i guess it shouldn't be a surprise.

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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 142 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Hold the fuck up, she was already OVERSTAYING her Visa and these idiots thought it was a good idea to TRAVEL? Nah they both got what they fucking deserved. It doesn't matter that you're awaiting your residency application, you have already passed your exit date, why the fuck would you be traveling for your honeymoon

Edit: I'm literally standing in the airport awaiting my fiance's return from Mexico right now, this shit makes all the people who actually read their paperwork and follow the rules, look bad when they get lumped in with these idiots.

[-] aramis87@fedia.io 47 points 4 weeks ago

Apparently she got stuck in the States when all the borders were closed during the pandemic, which seems pretty reasonable grounds for overstaying.

But - she didn't leave when the borders re-opened. She had fallen in love and at some point she filed paperwork to normalize her status - though they're pretty coy about when they filled the papers, so I suspect that was done after the borders re-opened and she should have left.

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I'm also going to point out what I haven't seen in any of the comments so far which is that, with ICE being pressured to increase the number of deportations, they're opting to go for low-hanging fruit. Unfortunately, that doesn't mean raiding places that they've known for decades are hiring illegal immigrants, arresting and prosecuting and imprisoning the owners and managers.

It does mean that they're hanging out at at least some airports, and it sounds like they're running passenger lists ahead of time (because they knew exactly who to approach). I mean, why to go the trouble of driving out to some farm or factory in the middle of nowhere, trying to chase down people who know the area better than you ever will, when you can sit at a comfy air-conditioned desk and only bother to get up when the computer lets you know that your "target" is trying to check in for their flight?

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[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 28 points 4 weeks ago

Nobody deserves to be punished for arbitrary political boundaries.

That being said, it's satisfying to see the people supporting those boundaries get punished by them.

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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 138 points 4 weeks ago

I pity Madam but I have little sympathy for Sir.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

I have little sympathy for Madame. She travelled ~~out of the country~~ to Puerto Rico for her honeymoon, knowing she overstayed on her visa. Given what had happened in the weeks leading up to them leaving the US last week, she really should have not gotten on that plane.

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The reason I sympathize with Madam is the same reason I sympathize with most migrants: they're not doing it to hurt the country they migrate to, they're trying to have a shot at a better life. I totally get what you're saying but that doesn't make her a bad person.

Sir however is a dumbass: he did the very thing the guy he voted for said he would crack down on and now he's bitching and moaning... Well ya know, faces, leopards and all that.

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[-] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 134 points 4 weeks ago

I honestly believe these idiots that voted for Trump somehow thought that they would be immune to his policies. He doesn't give a fuck about you.

[-] marzhall@lemmy.world 103 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

For sure. It's the classic:

Tweet that says, "I never thought the leopards would eat my face" says woman who voted for the leopards eating people's faces party

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[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 52 points 4 weeks ago

I know it’s been getting a lot of mileage on Lemmy lately, but:

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

  • Wilholt’s Law

He figured he was in the first group, and since conservatives tend to think women are property, he figured her being with him put her in that group too. Whoops.

[-] newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 4 weeks ago

This is a really good read on these types of situations. He's a white guy and he thought that was enough. that means the rules don't apply to him. I think as we are trying to figure these people out we sometimes overcomplicate it and a lot of the times the reasons are really quite simple. Just like them.

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[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 28 points 4 weeks ago

American exceptionalism

[-] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 25 points 4 weeks ago

They thought by bending the knee to Trump, they would be exempt from his bullshit. You're 100% right here. He doesn't give a fuck about Americans, their families or the down troddened.

Trump only cares about Trump.

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[-] UpperBroccoli 106 points 4 weeks ago

"but... it shouldn't have affected ME, you know?"

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago

Right because my situation is special. I’m special and these laws don’t apply to me. @shithead I’ve voted for you 3 times, please help rectify this mistake.

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

Another dumbass who still hasn't figured it out.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 88 points 4 weeks ago

Muñoz, from Peru, overstayed her visa ... Bartell, once supportive of stricter immigration policies, ...

"Supportive of stricter immigration policies," doesn't turn in his wife for violating existing immigration policies.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 46 points 4 weeks ago

"I got mine", he thought.

[-] MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee 32 points 4 weeks ago

An american woman wouldn't put up with his shit. My brother is unfortunately a trumper, and he got a foreign wife because she is the only woman that will put up with his shit that a normal woman would have walked out of years ago.

She slaves over him like a tradwife, raises his kids that isn't hers from the previous woman that walked away from his shit. But he's got joint custody.

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[-] Aphelion@lemm.ee 24 points 4 weeks ago

"No, no, she's on of the good ones, not one of criminals, and she's with me."

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[-] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 77 points 4 weeks ago

Good. I hope he's fucking devastated. I hope his entire world is fucking crumbling. Everyone with three working braincells or more knew exactly what would happen if we let the christonationalist fascists have total control of the government, and pieces of subhuman trash like him willingly made it happen.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 71 points 4 weeks ago

I hate that as americans were so stupid we have to learn like this because we can't hear people out before it gets to this point.

[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Like I believe one of your founding fathers Benjamin Franklin said: "Experience holds a dear school, but fools learn from no other"

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[-] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago

Well that's what decades of destroying education will do

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[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

I had a Scottish chick in Edinburgh tell me that I was the only American she enjoyed talking to. I didn't realize just how poorly we were viewed overseas until I went myself.

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[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 4 weeks ago

Maybe a controversial opinion but I don’t think anyone belongs in an ICE detention centre regardless of who their spouse voted for. I don’t think this is funny.

[-] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 23 points 4 weeks ago

Haven't you heard? Empathy is a sin and the weakness of Western civilization. It's what a true conservative would want.

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[-] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 49 points 4 weeks ago
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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 49 points 4 weeks ago

The more I see stories like this, the more I wonder if Americans can make it out of this hole they've dug. The average inhabitant seems... rather lacking, compared to other developed countries.

[-] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 4 weeks ago

I disagree. People are dumb. Pick a country and I'm sure I can find shitty takes reported in the news. Hell, look at Brexit

[-] stay_on_target@lemmy.world 26 points 4 weeks ago

Agreed. The thought that you're above the con, you could not fall for a grift, is the greatest thing a con man could hope for in a target.

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[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 46 points 4 weeks ago
[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 weeks ago

The money the couple saved for a down payment on a home has evaporated into attorneys fees and savings to pay a bond for her release, if she's given that chance.

There's a silver lining to this. Think about all the high quality white collar jobs (lawyers) that this is supporting. Way to stimulate the economy, Trumpers! /s

[-] chrischryse@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago

Me when I read stories like this

FAFO vote for a clown don't complain it's turning into a crazy circus

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 37 points 4 weeks ago

I hate how many people are this fucking stupid.

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[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 35 points 4 weeks ago

"They're hurting the wrong people!!"

[-] Ronno@feddit.nl 32 points 4 weeks ago

This reads like the post Brexit articles. What do people expect to happen when they vote for something?

[-] ScoreDivision@programming.dev 21 points 4 weeks ago

I didn't think leopards would eat my face

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[-] casmael@lemm.ee 29 points 4 weeks ago

Well, that was stupid wasn’t it

[-] Aliktren@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

You won, get over it

[-] veniasilente@lemm.ee 27 points 4 weeks ago

I'd feel sorry for the guy but that would be both insincere and incorrect. After all, he got exactly what he voted for.

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[-] missandry351@lemmings.world 25 points 4 weeks ago

Well, can’t say trump isn’t keeping my the promises he made when on campaign

[-] the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

It's almost as if being a racist douchebag is bad for everyone........

[-] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Why would you do that to your own wife?

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[-] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 24 points 4 weeks ago

Aren't these people guys with guns who fantasize about fighting tyranny? Well this is your fucking chance to shine, sweetheart!

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