Should be up on manslaughter charges. What the hell man.
Dude has to cope this hard to justify how he and his family killed their daughter.
Son of a bitch killed his kid.
Despite his daughter’s death, the father stated, “Everybody has to die.”
Jesus, I can't imagine being so into cult beliefs that I would have that attitude about my own kids, and actively work to make it happen sooner to boot.
I mean sure, we all will die, but it goes against the most basic biological imperative of all living things to make sure their kids outlive them. Must be some strong Koolaid. Dude needs to fuck off with that Jonestown-isque mindset.
I mean, in Judeo-Christian tradition, there's the story of Abraham willingly sacrificing his son to Yahweh until Yahweh stops him last-second. This kind of behavior is explicitly taught: nothing is more important than sky-daddy's whims.
yeah, it's almost like theistic religions are a stupid idea :D
everybody has to die >
But not that young and not from a preventable disease.
"Stuff in it that we don't trust."
Better to be dead than injected with chemicals that might make you autistic? Gay? A liberal? What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?
As a parent, I am so angry. How can you look at your child and be more afraid of the lesser outcomes (not that they even exist, but still) and choose death? What a failure of the parents. And shame on every single person in the media that let this bullshit spiral out of control. That poor girl.
What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?
The article says the man is a Mennonite, which means he probably believes in an afterlife. In his mind his child still exists and he'll get to see her again when he passes and spends eternity there.
I pretty firmly believe that afterlife beliefs account for a pretty significant distortion of values in people and helps explain a large number of frankly insane behaviours. Preventing deaths becomes much less important when there's an eternal paradise waiting for you and the "real" risk is doing something that bars you from going there.
This shit ought to be considered negligence and reason to at least remove any other kids from the home. Poor six year old was failed by her family and the state.
Sadly now that she's dead he has no choice but to defend his stance, because admitting the truth would mean being left with the knowledge that he killed his own daughter.
It takes a special kind of crazy to say vaccines have untrustworthy ingredients over the dead body of your unvaccinated child.
Mennonite man
Ah... right okay.
Ha, I got interested in researching what exactly Mennonites are, and funnily, the German Wikipedia article has, in its very introduction, this disclaimer:
In den Medien gibt es immer wieder Berichte über Mennoniten in Nord- oder Südamerika, die einen sehr konservativen bis weltabgewandten Lebensstil pflegen und die in der Regel einen deutschen Hintergrund haben. Diese Gruppen stellen jedoch nur einen kleinen Ausschnitt aus dem mennonitischen Spektrum dar, in dem es auch viele modernere, angepasstere und liberalere Gemeinschaften sowie viele andere ethnische Zugehörigkeiten gibt.
Translation by me:
"In the media, there are regular reports about Mennonites in North- or South America, who have a very conservative or even withdrawn lifestyle, who usually have German ancestry. These groups are, however, only a small section of the whole Mennonite spectrum, in which there are also many more modern, more adjusted and more liberal communities, as well as many other ethnicities."
Seems like your American Mennonite exiles are making the rest of the Mennonite world defensive.
I mean, that's just the history of the US anyway. Remember, the puritans were "escaping" "persecution" for there religious beliefs from Europe. Those beliefs were so incredibly strict, conservative, and restrictive that no one wanted those nut jobs around. Oh, look, 250 years later and their descendants are still afraid of a nipple.
Hope he told his daughter she had to die to make liberals cry
What happened to pro life 💀? oh wait it's Texas
Nothing? It's always been just pro birth/anti choice.
Is this a case of total brainwash, or just a case of a parent who didn't want his kid? Measles seems like a socially acceptable form of post-birth abortion today.
He's a Mennonite, pretty sure they've been opposed to what basically counts as modern medicine for a long time. The Old Order ones live similar to the Amish.
"The vaccination has stuff we don’t trust"
I would bet money this man could not name a single ingredient in a measles vaccine.
Just fuckin chuggin that koolaid
So basically he'd rather they just die than live with "stuff we don't trust". If "everybody has to die", then why care about what's in a vaccine in the first place? Extreme cognitive dissonance to support an ideology.
You know what else has stuff I don't trust? The fucking measles.
I suppose doubling down on being an utter useless fool is still easier on the ego than owning up to having negligently murdered your own daughter.
So he's a coward too. Lovely.
I bet he'd be more upset if his son died, not his daughter
Yeah... You totally can't trust a vaccine with 97% efficacy and a negligible mortality rate that's existed for over 80 years versus an extremely infectious virus with a 40% mortality rate and no effective treatment or cure... If only there were extensive scientific studies on these things that were easily and freely accessible to the public! Why do we have to live in such a dark and uninformed time!?
The fuck
He's Mennonite. They don't believe in any English medicine/science. If someone dies, it's God's will.
I'll never understand the position. If a deadly disease is God's will, then so is the vaccine which prevents it.
Mennonites have no problem using blades to cut their hair, wearing glasses when their vision is faulty, or using soap after wiping their ass. Why are they against medicine?
Because they don't like it, and like all religious groups... if They don't like it, then its against gods will. And if they like it, then it is gods will.
Which is why god hates vaccines, but loves child rape and wife beating, at least for these Amish-type religious communities. (and probably most of the republican party....)
You can only hope one day the asshole realizes he killed his kid and can't live with his failure.
do you understand how much this would destroy someone to acknowledge? that's why they're doing this. they need support to dismantle modern medicine, and that support will be built from tiny little coffins.
The conundrum here is that admitting his stance was wind would take a level of intelligence that would have had him vaccinate his child in the first place.
I know that's oversimplifying it, but the point still stands.
Stuff, you say. I'd wager this fool knows nothing at all about this supposed stuff.
He’s a Mennonite. He’s intentionally ignorant of the modern world and murdered his daughter.
Fucking deathcult of america.
Ah yes, the "everybody dies so who gives a shit" defense...
He says he doesn't trust it, but he's lying. If he actually cared about what's in the vaccines, he would get educated on the ingredients, the process of manufacture, the data and studies that have been done, etc.
But he won't do that, because he is a religious fundamentalist. He doesn't care about being logical, or reasonable, or understanding anything. He heard a certain viewpoint that he vibes with and stubbornly and fanatically holds to it.
Same as radical Islamists, or the Crusaders, or conspiracy theory nuts. They didn't reason themselves into their worldview. It wasn't carefully and methodically researched, it isn't something they are willing to change or adapt or be wrong on.
I sort of think we should be really mean to these people.
Like what?
Makes sense, what if she took the vaccine and it killed her? Oh, wait..
These people should be in prison for murder and forcibly sterilized.
Guy's almost happy his kid died. That should be a crime. Even worse, he's happy to have been at the helm of her death. Disgusting.
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