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[-] Jaberw0cky@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

That is such a lot of people, such a lot of people sufficiently motivated to spend their day protesting. What I struggle to get my head around is what they achieve. I admire them being vocal and taking action at potential risk to themselves but what I take away is that you could have a million people at a protest and it still wouldn’t magically make a government or a president stand down. Does a protest need to be part of a larger strategy to cause paralysis to the state, to cause economic pain or to orchestrate violence. Simply getting mega amounts of people to turn out seems like a massive achievement but it isn’t actually working..

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 20 points 1 day ago

What are they protesting in Italy? Ferrari's shit strategy in the AUS GP? (jk)

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

But also seriously what are they protesting, haven't heard shit about this in the UK and everyone assuming I already know is not helping.

[-] Khrux@ttrpg.network 5 points 3 hours ago

The main thing I've heard online is that it's a pro-europe movement, particularly in support or rearming the EU, particularly in response to current US actions.

I was speaking to an Italian guy at the pub on the weekend and he said that's totally wrong and it's just protesting general government corruption. I don't know if he's more credible than the internet, being Italian is a big plus but being a man at the pub means it's likely wrong. Maybe there are protests for both.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago

It might be shit, but at least they did it with both cars. Wait...

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 day ago

The estimates for the Belgrade protest go as far as 800k participants.

Serbia has a population of 6.6 million.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

800k participants.

A little background info on number of the 1st picture: According to the comments of the Serbian Pic I stole:

-The initial numbers of participants were extremely underrereported (100 K) by Reuters.

-The whole city seemed packed according to witnesses. so all the streets and parks were full with people ( as seen on drone images), he reckoned to add the cities population of 1.5 M to the tally.

-Others said that the other ( smaller) cities & towns seemed empty.

-Therefore, he guesstimated: 1.6 M and counting..

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

he reckoned to add the cities population of 1.5 M to the tally.

That would mean 90% of Belgrade was in the streets that day. As intense the popular support of the protests is, that number is surely a strech. 800k is already quite mind-boggling by the standards of the country... actually, by the standards of any country.

Edit: "The number of protesters present in Belgrade at the protest is disputed: the official government figure provided by MUP was 107,000, an analysis by the Archive of Public Meetings found there were between 275,000 and 325,000 present "with the possibility that the number was even higher,"[499] and Božo Prelević [sr], the former MUP minister, estimated there were at least half a million protesters.[500]" (Wikipedia)

The Reuters number was simply taken from the Ministry of Internal Affairs (MUP), which obviously preferred to keep the number low.

[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Agreed.

It's at least a very creative stretch from his part to account for his numbers, I could appreciate that. Therefore I found it necessary to shed some light on it, after I saw your input.

And whatever the exact turnout was, it was an incredible inspirational event. Feel bad for the ppl though. About the horrible acts of violence by the Gvment and the use of Sonic booms and such.

[-] FIbynight@lemm.ee 16 points 1 day ago

Adding this in case it’s helpful:

Defending against LRAD:
https://youtu.be/CXKTBQBugIA

Defending against microwave: https://youtu.be/Lg_aUOSLuRo

[-] MemmingenFan923@feddit.org 25 points 1 day ago

I am proud of my European brothers and sisters. 💪

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 95 points 1 day ago

Where's the picture of the protests in America?

...Oh yea...

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 230 points 1 day ago

They are being suppressed in media coverage, but there are people protesting. Media coverage paints a false picture that no one in the US is fighting back

Here's one from today with 1000 people in Boise, Idaho

Here's a super incomplete timeline with just a handful of the nationwide protests. I'm missing a lot, I'm just showing your the photos I had from recent memory


8 days ago there were national protest for science funding cuts. Here's the main one in DC


11 days ago there were nationwide protests in all 50 US state capitols + DC + Many cities within those states. This was part of the 50501 movement

Portland, Oregon

Monroe, Wisconsin

San Fransisco, California

Albany, New York

Raleigh, North Carolina

Richmond, Virginia

Austin, Texas

Protests Outside Fox News in New York City


16 days ago there were large protest in the Iowa Statehouse


19 days ago, a protest in Cherry Hill, New Jersy outside Tesla Showroom as part of a nationwide movement protesting Telsas. There have been tons more than just this one and these happen basically every day


21 days ago, large protests in DC for Ukraine aid


And so on. There's a lot more going on than just this

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 30 points 23 hours ago

The revolution will not be televised.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

Thank you for posting this. I'm so sick of ignorant people outside my country (US) spouting nonsense about nothing happening here.

These people are almost as bad as the US conservatives when it comes to believing only what they see on their news.

[-] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 39 points 1 day ago

Actual bravo.

[-] SoleInvictus 29 points 1 day ago

If we had shitty rewards, I'd give you a Lemmy Latinum.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago

That's... kind of sad. There's like dozens of people in those pictures. Honestly, no surprise media doesn't report it, I've seen barbecues with higher attendance. Americans need to do a lot better.

[-] wuphysics87@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago

I feel like we are all on the same side here? Perhaps not

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 10 hours ago

I think so, but look at the protests in Serbia (or south Korea recently, or France every other month since the invention of the baguette), or basically any other country... and look at the pictures of protests in the US. The difference is remarkable.

[-] WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

Non Americans only viewing American politics from the lens of a democracy that cares about what the people say or think is surprising ignorant.

Sorry Americans don't want to suicide by cop or make their families homeless to make your feel better. Californians can't just take a week off work to trek to the capital to hold up a meaningless sign so you feel a little better. If our government was ever worried about a protest everyone would leave in a bodybag or to a black site. There is no chance of it accomplishing anything and your sheer ignorance of American geography is ironically very American.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 5 hours ago

Those are great excuses. Enjoy trump.

[-] WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

Lol. Sounds like you'll be enjoying him more.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 24 minutes ago

For comedic value he's not bad, specially knowing he won't take away my Healthcare or my rights.

[-] WagyuSneakers@lemm.ee 1 points 8 minutes ago

Don't ever let anyone take it from you.

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[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

Better to simply call them "the states", because unity evaporated a while ago.

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

As a Canadian, No I definitely mean 'murica.

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

One thing to keep in mind is how geographically huge the US is comparatively and it makes it a lot harder to organize massive protests. Serbia is about the size of Wisconsin which is a relatively medium size state. Add that into the fact that the US is a very car dependent country where some people live 2 - 3 hours away from their capital or even a city. I'm not using this as an excuse, just a possible reason why ours in the US aren't big yet. I went to a couple in my state and I was extremely happy with everyone there but also extremely disappointed with the turnout. And I had to drive an hour and a half just to get there. I can't imagine how difficult it is for others in the bigger states.

It could be a lot of cope on my end, but I can't just assume everyone is just giving up. The last thing the US needs right now is apathy.

[-] captain_unicode@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago

Serbia also only has about 20% more inhabitants than Wisconsin. 🙂

[-] dust_accelerator@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I feel this is a lack oft creativity. Protests need to be peaceful, but disruptive. In a car based society, protest by car? If 5,000,000 cars "meet up" in any given metropolitan area, that areas productivity goes to zero, those in power won't even have any recourse, there aren't enough police/towtrucks to counter this, and if so it would take days or weeks. Only coordinated driving and parking/traffic jam required.

Effective protest should instill fear in those in power - the message is, with the sheer number of people right outside your building, could easily crush you if they so choose. A few guards can not offer protection in this case. The idea is, with this realization, that violence is not a good escalation, as in the end the powerful few will never come out on top.

This only works if the powerful few actually believe the masses will go as far as needed to effect the demanded change.

From outside, it appears the US protests favor comfort over conflict, thus are viewed as lacking credibility and therefore, pose no danger to the power class. As long as the individual prioritizes their selves before acting as a collective, including taking the risk of collective punishment, the protest remains unbelievable, therefore ineffective and easily ignored.

[-] Maxxie 6 points 1 day ago

Serbia has like a quarter population of NYC.

I don't know why there aren't any mass protests in the US, but that ain't it.

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[-] techclothes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Being censored.

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[-] HowRu68@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Solidarity wirh the people against corruption and for democracy.

Context: see links below and other Ops. Pics stolen and made a 'collage' in the same order as the title.

-Serbia

-Hungary

-Romania

-Italy

EDIT; link to most recent Romanian (pro Europe) protest, instead of older one

[-] federalreverse@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Could you please also link something that gives context here? Thanks!

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