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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 153 points 1 year ago

I read an interesting article about 40K Space Marines last year, the problem with them is that some people just don't get satire no matter how glaringly obvious it is

[-] gibmiser@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

Starship Troopers is so badass!

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I really blame the games industry as a whole for this. They keep making games with Space Marines as the protagonists, where their violence is presented as justified, when a lore-friendly space marine game should be like "No Russian" missions all the time and the resulting failure this causes to their Empire. This constant "whitewashing" of the lore, is what has attracted a ton of people.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 year ago

I would LOVE to see a WH40k setting where the space marines are lore-accurate murdering an entire multi-billion hive-city for some minor heresy by a few thousand of the people on the 925th-sub-basement, and you're playing random ganger Scumface Mc Spikearms who's just trying to survive.

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God-Emperor (mostly dead sitting on a cybernetic throne preserving his life, requires like 100 psychics a day to feed on to live) wants to spread his Religious-no-religion religion across the cosmos, and the brutality with which is required is a small price to pay for industry.

And then they choose to like the guy unironically. But if they're really into Slaneesh then they just get a special brand of weird.

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[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Yeah, this was on full display when Helldivers 2 launched. So many people just didn’t get the satire, and unironically leaned into the messaging.

For the unaware, Helldivers 2 is basically a Starship Troopers video game.

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[-] papertowels@mander.xyz 110 points 1 year ago

People who like Rick and Morty.

People who look up to Rick.

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People who like American Psycho because it is a brilliant satire of the sociopathy of the elite.

vs

People who like American Psycho because 'I'm just like Patrick Bateman, fr fr.'

...

Its the same with Fight Club, Falling Down, Taxi Driver...

Its possible to enjoy and be a fan of these movies without actually idolizing a psycopath... maybe you sympathize or empathize with them to varying degrees, but you don't hold them up as idealized character role models, you realize these are all very flawed, often tragic characters who ... basically become villains in (semi?) plausible ways, that showcase how brutal and broken society is...

But, so many people do actually idolize these trainwreck characters that now we've spent basically the entire era of internet based cultural dominance/exchange where any kind of admiration of these 'cautionary morality tale about a disaffected man' type movies is just immediately, often instantly viewed as a red flag by a whole lot of people.

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[-] CryptoKitten@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 year ago

I am interested in survivalism but it seems like most survivalists are a bunch of god-fearing crazy racist motherfuckers.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 27 points 1 year ago

Bushcrafting content has a fine line when it pushes over into doomsday prepper. I can get the ideas of having a bit of food/water stocked up for a normal emergency. But if you are preparing industrial quantities of things to survive for years in a bunker you should seek help.

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[-] match@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago

maybe the best part of being trans is that your trans friend group can buy a ranch in the mountains and stock up on guns and alpaca and you never get mistaken for a race war wisher

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[-] bricklove@midwest.social 87 points 1 year ago

History is kind of the opposite. When someone says they like history I'll get excited and ask what period is their favorite. If they say "Romans" without any qualifiers like Early Republic or Late Eastern Empire, I get a bad feeling and they usually follow up with "and WWII"

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

my answer is "mesopotamian" because I like their goofy little sculptures
archeology is cool, humans are just little goblins that really like to live on hills for some reason

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[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 81 points 1 year ago

I'm a white, Christian, male firearms enthusiast from Texas.

That's a tough combination when I'm also extremely leftist.

[-] jacksilver@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Why only a "male firearms enthusiast", what about the female firearms? Maybe your not as big of a leftist as you thought.

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[-] polycrome@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

What's funny is that while Vikings are mostly remembered for their warrior culture, their success as a diaspora came more from their merchant and sailing culture. THEY were the 'immigrants.'

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[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

I own guns. I love my guns. But I'm not weird about it, I'm all about responsible gun ownership, I don't have an entire armory, and I ESPECIALLY don't open carry.

Ammosexuals give the rest of gun enthusiasts a very bad name.

[-] Machinist@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

No fucking shit. As a redneck that hunts and goes fishing, it's miserable being around pretty much any other dude that is a hunter and finds out that I hunt. No hunting buddies or anything for me. I've seen a prayer circle at the gun range before.

Good thing I like solitude, I guess.

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[-] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

I do home canning and a fair deal of baking. There's a lot of trad bullshit around this that makes me just go "I'm canning cause I love me some candied jalapeños, not because my husband demands I do"

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[-] mke@programming.dev 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Does programming count as a hobby? I waste my free time on it... There's this funny stereotype, of a queer programmer with long, quirky socks, and maybe even a fursona. Despite being a small percentage, such types are often overrepresented online. It used to bother me a little.

Nowadays I'm so, so glad when someone I'm talking to is part of that group. It usually means I don't need to worry about them being weirdly sexist, like women don't suffer enough in STEM already, or insisting that we need to keep politics out of tech (i.e. they want their politics to rule, unquestioned).

(Need something more tangible? Look no further than uncle bob (skip to the bottom). I've seen his books in classrooms, in the office, and let's not speak of online mentions. This is a relatively well-known, respected name in the industry. If you get to know people, you will meet many, many uncle bobs out there.)

Silly feelings on my part? Perhaps. One less thing to worry about, though.

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[-] Anamnesis@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

This is a big problem as a leftist who likes to shoot guns.

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[-] Frostbeard@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago
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[-] catsarebadpeople@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

Nazi punks fuck off. This is not a good example. Every metal enjoyer I know is progressive. It's one of the few communities that is still mostly sane and decent.

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[-] qevlarr@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Warhammer 40K entered the chat

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[-] asdrabael@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

Me with my koi pond, before I discovered that most other pond owners are elderly right wing conspiracy theorists who don't believe in crazy stuff like the nitrogen cycle or that mailing invasive plants like water hyacinth or water spangled is illegal.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

Me but with anime and pedophiles

If someone enters a conversation saying child-coding isn't a thing, they get a free block

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 25 points 1 year ago

Dumbass here, what's child-coding? Those "totally not underage" characters?

[-] BambiDiego@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Yup.

"B-b-but ackhshually they're a 1000-year old drago-"

Shut up. They wanna fuck it. It looks like a 10 year old child. They wanna fuck a 10 year old body.

They're not just creeps, but they're cowards who don't even stand by their creepy convictions.

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[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

Since we're on Lemmy and all: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmy#Personal_life

Lemmy collected German military regalia; he had an Iron Cross emblazoned on his bass, which led to accusations of Nazi sympathies. He stated that he collected Nazi memorabilia because he liked the way it looked, and he considered himself an anarchist. He spoke against racism many times. Lemmy said he was against religion, government, and established authority. In 2011, he identified as agnostic, saying: "I can find out when I die. I can wait. I'm not in a hurry." Jeff Hanneman, the founder of the thrash metal band Slayer, befriended Lemmy due to their shared fondness for collecting Nazi memorabilia. According to Keith Emerson's autobiography, Pictures of an Exhibitionist (2004), Lemmy gave him two of his Hitler Youth knives during his time as a roadie for the Nice. Emerson used these knives many times as keyholders when playing the Hammond organ during concerts with the Nice and Emerson, Lake & Palmer before destroying them. Lemmy defended his collection by saying that if his then-girlfriend (who was black) had no problem with it, nobody else should.

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[-] strawberry@kbin.earth 33 points 1 year ago

80% of car guys are racist and conservative 😩

literally everyone I work with is

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[-] Emmie@lemm.ee 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Old school games enjoyer: “Games used to be awesome… modern games are garbage”

🚨

Morrowind is better than Skyrim

😎

I particularly enjoy the telvanni lore

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[-] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Weightlifters seem to hove about similar parts make up very kind people who just want others to succeed and people who listen to Joe rogan and Jordan Peterson.

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago

Whenever some city dweller says they like to go fishing, I immediately think "He's a right winger AND uses fishing as an excuse to cheat on his wife" - this seems to be the case often down here in Brazil

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[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Blacksmithing/bladesmithing.

I spent must of my youth fascinated by knives, still am, and this got me into classical metal working. By the time I was 18 I had built a pretty decent working forge in my mom's backyard.

Shortly after 9/11 I took a week long class in bladesmithing in Arkansas. Outside of Blade Forums and the occasional knife show, I'd never really interacted with other knife people. Not a whole lot going on in my large northern city.

The way those bastards talked openly about anyone that wasn't white or Christian turned my stomach. I pretty much kept to myself, it hung out with the one chill hippy from Oregon, or the eternally gob-struck British blacksmiths apprentice (You sell GUNS in a GROCERY STORE?!)

I learned a lot on that trip. Nowadays I don't bring up my knife hobby because I sure as shit don't want to be mistaken for one of those ignorant cretins.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 28 points 1 year ago

I've felt the call to get into history of the American Civil War. But I also am white and live in the south.

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[-] lemsip@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 year ago

I used to enjoy conspiracy theories, because I thought it would be cool if they were true.
Things like cryptids, aliens, etc...
But now all the conspiracy groups are filled with stupid right-wing science deniers.

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[-] NONE_dc@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I don't trust ANYONE who says they are a fan of Warhammer 40K unless they are a fan of a Xeno faction.

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[-] Redacted@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 year ago

Warhammer 40k. I like to paint little green guys and then move them around a battlefield.

A good half of the poeple in this hobby are almost entirely irredeemable

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[-] Infynis@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

This is one of the reasons a session 0 is so important in TTRPGs, ideally one hosted in a public place. Great way to keep creeps out

[-] FundMECFSResearch 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People who follow those “wellness” influencers who sell random supplements and shit and basically make up all sorts of shit as if it’s medical knowledge.

Those people tend to be super ableist and anti-disabled. As a disabled person whenever you interact with that sort of person they always lecture you about “not trying hard enough” to find a treatment and recommend you expensive magic powders.

These same kind of people mistreat their disabled kids, refuse to vaccinate, that kind of bs.

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