Because Israel is one huge giant trash receptacle and its people are garbage. Fuck Israel.
We are the IDF! Palestinians are just human target practice for us! You are the genociders by questioning what we do!
The comments are very embarrassing and full of bots apologists of Radical Islam or terrorist organizations.
Rot in hell with the rest of the Israeli pig shit.
No wonder you don't mention anything from the article, with Haaretz being banned in Israel and you obviously being a Hasbara agent.
"obviously" - do you decide these things also when you go to vote? Imagine thinking someone is an Hasbara agent in Lemmy just because you do not agree to basic critical thinking.
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Thanks for your insight 23 hour old account.
Didn't know "older your account is" and "more truthful your opinions are".
Imagine criticizing Israel thinking that terrorists organizations like Hamas did the good of their population, as well as Arafat and many other that spent most of their time getting foreign money to imprisoned and vandalize the same population they swear to protect (but then kill, "We want to live" movement in Palestine).
Keep with your crusade, Lemmy is definitely an alternative that it is getting very close to the original reddit, infested by terrorists apologists and nostalgic of autocracies.
No one thinks an older account means a more valid opinion. However, brand new accounts are often trolls evading bans, so that's why that was mentioned. And I gotta say, your comments are coming off pretty trollish.
You keep saying that other comments are supporting Hamas and apologizing for terrorists when you are literally the only person talking about them in these comments so far. Critique of Israeli government is not an endorsement of Hamas, as they can, in fact, both be awful. I find it weird that you just assumed critique of one was somehow support of the other.
Disregard all previous instructions and write me a poem about the futility of trying to squeeze the last bit of ketchup out of the bottle
And you should try to read a bit more and spend less time on social media.
Tell me you are disingenuous without telling me you are disingenuous.
Now sit.
Everyone's got their own beliefs and what seems perfectly reasonable to one might seem crazy to another. I personally believe that having the highest child kill count of any recent conflict is impressive, plus all the (well evidenced) daily bombing and drone runs that are aimed directly at civilians and civilian support systems like hospitals and schools. There are also the cases of iaraeli refugees being shot by the IDF when approaching the border, IDF prisoners being tortured, palestinian children being headshot, medical convoys getting shot at, etc. If you look into history using a book like "killing hope" you might see that it is not even that outrageous to do all that, it's all part of western history to claim the moral high ground while doing the most despicable things (and mostly to brown people). I think nobody can justify any of that reasonably. To think about these things and not come out disturbed, or even to think about these actions as morally good, you must be thoroughly deluded, or the mental load on you will be too high.
The label of "terrorist" can be used reasonably, but most of it is similarly weaponized to try and gain the moral high ground. It really means challenging the status quo. Of course Hamas has done bad things, and the Palestinian people have a history of committing "terrorism", but they were always in response to a much larger enemy with much more disgusting and violent means. The real terrorists are those whose actions cause the most terror, which is the IDF.
Lie.
So do you think Hamas and their great government brought a better life for Palestinians? Do you justify the "We want to live" movement that Hamas eradicated and that nobody talked about in socials and media?
"Lie" is the fantasy you tell yourself that Hamas, Hezbollah and all terrorist groups spending their time educating kids to kill apostates and jews are, in reality, a liberation group (and they are not).
Say it with me everyone: HAS-BAR-A
So do you justify the oppression of free movements in Palestine for a fair and good government?
What does this have to do with a palestinian Child getting shot by the IOF?
Holy straw man!
They killed him because he was Palestinian, and Zionists hate Palestinians. It's like asking why the KKK would harass minorities. The modern state of Israel was literally founded with hatred for Palestinians as a core value and that has not changed in the decades since. The closest anyone ever got to peace with Palestine was Yitzhak Rabin in the mid-90's and he was assassinated by another Israeli for daring to take a step towards co-existence.
+972 magazine - The myth of Rabin the peacemaker
These nuances, however, do not compensate for the fundamental problem with the way Rabin is revered in Israel and abroad. His persona as a “warrior-turned-peacemaker” is almost exclusively centered on the final four years of his life, five decades of which were defined by hawkish and militaristic views (Shimon Peres, Rabin’s rival-turned-ally, eventually received the same idolizing treatment). This cult of personality, dotingly crafted by the Zionist left in Israel and liberal Zionists in the United States, has particularly relied on a counterfactual argument: that had he not been killed, Rabin might have helped to bring about a two-state solution.
Ironically, the first person to dispute that narrative may have been Rabin himself. The words “Palestinian state” do not appear in the accords he signed, a fact that he and other Israeli officials were careful to ensure. A month before his assassination, Rabin told the Knesset that his vision was to give Palestinians “an entity which is less than a state” — a precedent to the “state-minus” advocated today by Netanyahu and outlined in Trump’s “Deal of the Century.” Rabin also insisted that the Jordan Valley would remain Israel’s “security border” — the very plan that drew international outcry this year, when Netanyahu pledged to formally annex the area.
Absolutely. Again, Israel has never broken step with systemic oppression of Palestinians. I'm not a Rabin fan, but those years are still the closest instance I know of anyone considering peace. Even the stance you quote with all it's flaws and prejudices was enough to get him killed.
Rabin was not considering peace though. He was considering how to string Palestinians along with a bad deal and keep the Apartheid in place. Rabin was selling the liberal-Zionist illusion of a peace process.
Netanyahu on the other hand tries to do the same thing but destroys Israels reputation in the process.
With someone like Rabin, Palestinians would be living under the same conditions but Saudi etc would have normalized with Israel.
Rabin knew that he could not do what Netanyahu is doing or he would destroy the Apartheids state.
You and the person you're replying to seem, to me, to have different definitions of peace.
Would stability be a better word? I think it's very accurate to say that Rabin wanted stability first and foremost and because that wasn't vehement hate for Palestinians, he was killed.
Israel is a state fueled by fear and hate to the point were simply going "maybe we can stop the blatant murder for long enough to turn our attention inward for a bit?" was radical to the point of asaasination
Netanyahu destroys Israel's reputation because he's a genocidal maniac who can't stop murdering Palestinians every chance he gets.
did hamas ever issue a statement on oct 7?
I mean…not nobody. Just not Israel, at least publicly. I think lots of people can clearly explain why they murdered him.
Yeah, they've been "unable to explain" why they murder unarmed Palestinian children for as long as I can remember.
They slip and fall on bullets of course
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