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Second?

The first and second happened on the same stage within 5 second of each other

[-] Tja@programming.dev 17 points 16 hours ago

And that was hardly the first...

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 30 points 22 hours ago

Surely them doing the Nazis salute counts as cultural appropriation. The right-wing German should be complaining about it. They need to come up with their own salutes

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

Hey! That's our thing!

[-] Acidbath@lemmy.world 10 points 22 hours ago

Didn't we used to do the nazi salute for the pledge of allegience before ww2? I remember reading it somewhere but also FUCK NAZIS

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 14 points 21 hours ago

The pledge itself is already nazi bullshit.

[-] Fiona 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

AFAIK it was a reference to the “Italian Salute”, aka Mussolini, the coiner of the term fascism… So not really all that much better…

[-] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

Tbf, it didn't have the Nazi connotation then. It's like how the meaning of the Swastika has changed over time. It been common in Hindu and Buddhist iconography for over a thousand years.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 264 points 1 day ago

Ya know......as much as I hated Bush in his day, he was never a nazi. I called him a LOT of things over the years.....but I never remember calling him a nazi.

How the fuck are we living in a timeline where a president who used a terrorist attack as justification for invading countries that never had anything to do with it, is now looked at as "he wasn't so bad...."

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago

Bush is a war criminal, lied to the American people, and contributed to the pathway that created trumpism.

He's not a Nazi. But he's not a good guy either.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago

And he is an avid painter. Wait...

[-] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

His grandpa was though.

https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/how-bushs-grandfather-helped-hitlers-rise-to-power

https://militaryhistorynow.com/2013/02/25/the-business-plot-did-american-billionaires-plan-a-fascist-coup/

And his dad HW ran the CIA for a while.

Pardoned a good number of Iran Contra CIA people when he was President.

... And seems to have been working for or with the CIA for many years before he became director.

https://www.salon.com/2019/01/25/the-real-reason-the-cia-loved-george-h-w-bush_partner/

Zapata Oil was run by HW Bush... and very much seems to have been a CIA front company, assisting with many 'kinetic' operations in Cuba and Latin America.

... And if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, a whole bunch of people connected to Watergate, the Bay of Pigs... and JFK's assasination... are also linked to Zapata Oil...

... and HW himself was noted by J Edgar Hoover as working for the CIA, in 1963, way before HW ever admitted he worked for/with the CIA, in an official FBI memo investigating the assasination.

https://headlineusa.com/records-implicate-george-h-w-bush-in-the-assassination-of-jfk/

https://www.nytimes.com/1988/07/11/us/63-fbi-memo-ties-bush-to-intelligence-agency.html

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the preceding years laundering his reputation and presidency has been maddening. His war crimes, foreign policy on essentially everything, domestic policy on education, carceral systems, tax reform, and the border should have him in solitary at The Hague for the rest of his life. The man is truly a monster, and walks among the nazis today. He's still a republican, so whether or not he's a nazi is perhaps an academic debate only.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

He was a fascist. He was always a fascist and his "War on Terror" laid the ground work for our current situation.

His presidency is when I first saw the Signs of Fascism.

[-] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

bruh that shit's already gone. they're actually doing the salutes (the point of this thread)

[-] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Yup, it’s when patriots and flags on cars took a nasty turn. Let’s not forget about Dock Cheney either. O matter what his daughter has tried to do to change that name, Bush and Dick belong in the Hauge.

Trump belongs in an orange jumpsuit and Musk belongs in South Africa, locked in a compound hiding from the world.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

So you just aren't aware of the "PATRIOT [sic] Act" at all, huh?

Bush signing that into law was the moment I knew Bin Laden had won.

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[-] A7thStone@lemmy.world 100 points 1 day ago
[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 day ago

Man, that one was so much worse than I remembered. I thought it was just part of a wider gesture, but that heil and the wave that came afterward are clearly two different emotes

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[-] darvit@lemmy.darvit.nl 7 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
[-] umbraroze@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

Aka "karate chopping the Plausible Deniability right in the throat"

[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 118 points 1 day ago

The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

My dearly departed gramps would agree. Man was on the ground walking across France and Germany on a mission to free concentration camps. He wouldn’t describe it in any further detail than that, ever, but he would shut down any murmur of racism. Silence a room shut down.

We lack that now which is why hx is coming back around again.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I think it’s interesting* that as soon as everyone with a firsthand account of Nazis dies, Nazism comes roaring back. It’s as though there’s no generational memory in society.

*not to imply it’s good, it’s horrifying.

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[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

~~Hmm... I wonder if this because the Republican party are Nazis~~

Wake up people...

[-] metaStatic@kbin.earth 60 points 1 day ago

My heart goes out to the American people

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago
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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That shit isn’t contained in the US unfortunately. As much as the right say that they are against globalism and globalists like Soros they have been manipulated by the biggest globalist. The entire international swing towards fascism in the West has been orchestrated by Putin. He is the New World Order. We will be seeing more Nazis take power across the world.

[-] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Please convert that into our preferred crisis currency, Thoughts and Prayers(tm)

[-] rustyricotta@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

There's a 10% currency exchange fee.

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[-] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

This was a nazi salute, or at least a reference to it, you can obviously see it. However, and this is where it becomes slightly problematic...

Is it enough of a nazi salute to not work in their favor? We can easily compare Elons salute with a nazi one, just show it side by side with an actual one. But this one is obviously (you can see it on his face) meant to reference it, but it is not as explicit. The problem is that when it is called out, it is just another case of "the woke left screaming that everyone that disagrees with them is a nazi".

I have no idea how we should handle shit like this.

[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

If it looks like an intentional nazi salute then it is a nazi salute. No overthinking needed.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It was enough of a Nazi salute for the head of France's far-right party, who are Nazis, to cancel his planned speech.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 36 points 1 day ago

I'm usually not a fan of zero tolerance policies, but I make an exception for Nazi shit.

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[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

I was hesitant at first, but like. What the hell else is he doing? He isn't gesturing to emphasize something he's saying, he isn't waving at anyone, he isn't addressing the crowd. Literally the only thing it can reasonably be is a heil.

[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Bannon is white fucking trash anyway. Not just saying that because he looks like human excrement but because he has the personality of a roasted maggot.

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[-] demizerone@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago
[-] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 22 hours ago

Somebody should tell him that if he's going to be a Nazi then he needs to have acquire a snazzy sense of style. He looks like a random old man down the sports bar.

[-] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

There's only one kind of good nazi. We should strive to make them all like that.

[-] IDew@lemm.ee 22 points 1 day ago

Why exactly are we repeating history

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