792

Summary

Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to "Russian aggression" and prefers calling it the "Ukraine conflict."

This shift follows Trump's peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine's President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a "dictator."

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] yournamehere@lemm.ee 10 points 4 hours ago

it increases the number of people that want to blow up america every day. i bet americans abroad will have a hard time getting food in foreign countries where the cook did not spit on it.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

That's why you have to travel with candian gear. Just velcro that on your bag.

[-] bruhssa@lemmy.world 36 points 13 hours ago

I'd love to ask all of the MAGA heads to just question themselves this: Why go through all of this just to help Putin. Some fucked up shit must go on that Trump risks all of this just for Putin.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 12 points 12 hours ago

Same reason the US helps Israel?

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

The US-Israel alliance has been a disgusting and embarrassing debacle

[-] SilentKettle@lemmy.wtf 76 points 18 hours ago

It's almost as if he works for Putin

[-] perestroika@lemm.ee 20 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Maybe he does.

Maybe Putin's colleagues found out something interesting about Trump back in the days, and made him an offer he could not refuse - "go and become King of America, we'll even help you a little, but you'll serve us".

Wild speculation, of course. But he definitely doesn't have national interest burdening his mind in any way or manner.

P.S. If I worked in the Secret Service, I would use my telescope to watch birds fly and tree leaves wobble. Even if there was a remote weapons station turning towards my client, or a wire guided object coming in - I would hardly notice until impact.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago

Advocating for murder is… questionable at best.

[-] humorlessrepost@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yet nobody objects to fantasies about time traveling to kill hitler.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

By the is logic you would condone fantasies about time traveling to kill any leader that has caused harm… that’s going to be a lot of killing.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I guess eradicating a current fuhrer is Too Soon for sympathizers. It they have something to gain from a shit stain being in control for a bit before it circles the bowl enough times to finally disappear.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 36 points 18 hours ago

Blow it apart. America doesn't belong with its former Allies.

Its clear that America has no interest in being apart of the free world, they checked out.

Now fuck off and go destroy yourselves in a frenzy over transgender bathroom doors and eggs. The rest of us still have lives to live and futures to protect.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

According to Alnur Mussayev, 6th Directorate of the KGB in Moscow, Don was recruited by the KGB in 1987 and given the codename Krasnov.

Drop the USA and change the metting to the G6 + California until Jan 2029.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?

Just doublechecking my premises, there's this from Investopedia:

The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world's largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis...

Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 22 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)

[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

The G6 should incorporate Ukraine, Taiwan, and Panama. Then extend a treaty of friendship to Blue States within America. America clearly has no (good) future, and the world will change because of it. Might as well make the most of it.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 20 hours ago
[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

What? Hell no! The Orange KGB agent and Leon Hitler want the US to be like China.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 18 hours ago

It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.

If China's willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

China would have to do a whole lot more than just "not support russia". As a starter, they'd need to start being transparent, honest, and not censor the ever loving shit out of all information from their country. Then they could stop genociding minorities.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

The G8 already included Russia and the US, with Russia definitely being worse than China, even before the 2014 Ukraine invasion... And honestly, has the US ever been any better?

It's an economic alliance more than anything.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 10 points 18 hours ago

I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China's goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago

That's definitely true, and the thought has crossed my mind before.

Anything an European company manages to sell in China is going to be a huge boost too. It's the damn IP laws that are a pain to work with, though. A Chinese company perfectly clones your product? Well, you're not going to win if you sue them.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago

China is as a bad faith actor if not worse than the US. And that's saying something. Moreover, they are threatening another democracy (Taiwan) while being a dictatorship. What would be the EU stance in case of aggression? Ukraine being invaded is bad, but Taiwan is fine? That would be hypocrisy at it's worst

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

Even better, South Korea

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

That would piss them off so much lol

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 139 points 1 day ago

Kick the US out. If our democracy survives Trump, you can always readmit us when we have a president who acts in good faith. Otherwise, this shit is only going to get worse...

[-] towelie@lemm.ee 82 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unfortunately it's likely going to take more than just electing a nice guy for USA to earn back its status as a trustworthy ally. When the country can just go rogue every four years, making threats against allies and backing out of agreements — and half of the country is so nationalist that they applaud it — you can't really establish a basis of trust.

[-] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I wish you were wrong.

I guess I can pray for balkanization and that our further allies take pity on whatever Blue City State I end up being a member of.

[-] krebssteven@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Precisely this. Once this trust has been lost and the 'G6' face a world where they cannot count on the US, geopolicies will change and the US will not be perceived trustworthy anytime soon. As it stands, it will be considered yet another global power with anti-democratic tendencies, policies that endanger world piece and disrupt the common pursuit for prosperity and is considered best kept in check.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

I'm a US citizen. Please kick us out. The more countries that take concrete action against us that actually hurt us the more likely congress and the voters are to stand up to Trump.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 3 points 19 hours ago

If you think any fact will affect the American public, you are much more optimistic than me.

Republicans will blame Soros, o Pelosi, or AOC and trump will have even more support.

[-] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

That's assuming they even pay attention to anything international other than Ukraine or Israel (many don't).

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] jve@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago

Got me feelin’ so fly, like a G6

American here: make it the G6. I am 100% serious. Trump is not your friend, and the rest of our fucking government is demonstrably inept in the extreme in terms of resisting this fascist takeover.

[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

Yes, PLEASE! The rich fucks need to start feeling the consequences of this bullshit where it hurts. It's the only domestic demographic that can offer enough pressure to motivate this administration to change their behavior.

load more comments (16 replies)
[-] SnotFlickerman 282 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Do what they did to Russia, kick the US the fuck out and start calling it the G6. It was the G8 from 1997 to 2014, they can stand to lose another.

The US is literally trying to kickstart an economic depression in the US. Why the fuck would you want these guys in economics talks when they clearly understand FUCK ALL about economics? A US depression will fuck up the rest of the world's economics as well, and that's clearly the long-term goal.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 20 Feb 2025
792 points (100.0% liked)

World News

41146 readers
3637 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS