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Trump is pushing for softer language on Russia’s war in Ukraine, straining G7 unity.

Officials say the U.S. is blocking references to "Russian aggression" and prefers calling it the "Ukraine conflict."

This shift follows Trump's peace talks with Putin that excluded Ukraine's President Zelensky, whom Trump later called a "dictator."

The change in rhetoric contrasts with Biden-era support for Ukraine and threatens a unified G7 stance.

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[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

The fuck is G7 anyway, but the face of global capitalism?

Just doublechecking my premises, there's this from Investopedia:

The Group of Seven is an intergovernmental organization made up of the world's largest developed economies: France, Germany, Italy, Japan, the United States, the United Kingdom, and Canada. Government leaders of these countries meet periodically to address international economic and monetary issues, with each member taking over the presidency on a rotating basis...

Yeah, fuck 'em, but all is forgiven if G7 has the balls to expel America.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

G8 expelled Russia for the original Ukrainian invasion in 2014. If need be, I suppose they can become G6. Or honestly, in this day and age, there are many more nations whose opinions should be considered. G7 is pretty eurocentric and I say this as an European (though not a citizen of any of the 7)

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago
[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

What? Hell no! The Orange KGB agent and Leon Hitler want the US to be like China.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

It was a thought I had too, but tbh I feel iffy about China.

If China's willing to stop supporting Russia, I could see the west sans US starting closer ties with China. That alliance would be an economic powerhouse for sure.

[-] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago

I figure the best way to convince China to stop supporting Russia is to give them a better option. Europe is a bigger economy and more in line with many of China's goals. Russia is chaotic and weak by comparison.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago

That's definitely true, and the thought has crossed my mind before.

Anything an European company manages to sell in China is going to be a huge boost too. It's the damn IP laws that are a pain to work with, though. A Chinese company perfectly clones your product? Well, you're not going to win if you sue them.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

China is as a bad faith actor if not worse than the US. And that's saying something. Moreover, they are threatening another democracy (Taiwan) while being a dictatorship. What would be the EU stance in case of aggression? Ukraine being invaded is bad, but Taiwan is fine? That would be hypocrisy at it's worst

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

China would have to do a whole lot more than just "not support russia". As a starter, they'd need to start being transparent, honest, and not censor the ever loving shit out of all information from their country. Then they could stop genociding minorities.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

The G8 already included Russia and the US, with Russia definitely being worse than China, even before the 2014 Ukraine invasion... And honestly, has the US ever been any better?

It's an economic alliance more than anything.

[-] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Even better, South Korea

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That would piss them off so much lol

[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 3 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The G6 should incorporate Ukraine, Taiwan, and Panama. Then extend a treaty of friendship to Blue States within America. America clearly has no (good) future, and the world will change because of it. Might as well make the most of it.

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