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[-] piconaut@sh.itjust.works 112 points 3 weeks ago

Tuberculosis has entered the chat.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 99 points 3 weeks ago

And Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, Salmonella.. It's the Macy's parade equivalent of preventable diseases by UHT and y'all been invited!

On the other hand, unrefrigerated raw milk is a fantastic way of meeting who's who of the bacterial world.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 68 points 3 weeks ago

For some people it's the only culture they'll ever have.

[-] hungryphrog 12 points 2 weeks ago

But it's natural! And natural always means it's good for you, because I'm scared of chemicals despite not knowing what a chemical is because I can't pronounce their names!

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

Exactly, Salmonella can be on its own a great way to boost your defenses*.

*If you survive it.

[-] spooky2092 2 points 6 days ago

Salmonella?!? But I'm not having fish!

[-] hungryphrog 2 points 2 weeks ago

And if you die of a completely preventable disease, then it's just natural selection!

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Even though pasteurizing doesn't add any chemicals to the milk either...

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[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yup

This post is stupid

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 73 points 3 weeks ago

I think there is confusion between raw milk, pasteurized milk and UHT milk. Only UHT milk doesn't need to be refrigerated but it tastes horrible.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 81 points 3 weeks ago

Only UHT milk doesn't need to be refrigerated…

While it’s still sealed. Once opened, it needs to be refrigerated.

[-] robolemmy@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

I’m that weird guy who prefers the cooked taste of UHT pasteurized milk.

[-] ralakus@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Another weird UHT enjoyer here. If it weren't so expensive where I'm at then I'd be having it more often

[-] DV8@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I hope it at least pleases you to know that in places where UHT milk is the norm, pasteurised milk is more expensive and sometimes simply not available. (I somewhat prefer that flavour)

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago

If I want that cooked flavor I open a can of evaporated (not condensed which has a lot of added sugar) milk. It's yummy in coffee and any cooking/baking use.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

There is decent UHT milk but it's by no means the majority of the market.

[-] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 60 points 3 weeks ago

There's a reason the milk man used to deliver every day

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 2 weeks ago

To bang my mom?

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 50 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn't raw milk have an even shorter shelf life?

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 65 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depends on how you look at it. Raw milk spoils at the same pace as [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk. Only for raw milk the counter starts ticking once the milk leaves the cow, whereas [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk remains sterile until you open the package.

[-] DV8@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Pasteurised doesn't equal sterilised. Not sure ofcourse where you live since apparently that matters for this term since some places used pasteurised for what is double pasteurization and thermized for single pasteurization.

I know the pasteurised milk I buy will spoil in a matter of days, even if unopened. The only milk that will stay good unopened for months us UHT.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks for the heads-up. I just checked the German Wikipedia article. Apparently there are several ‘levels’ of pasteurization ranging from 70°C through 150°C. Since I’ve only encountered the kill-all-that-has-ever-lived kind (UHT), I assumed that’s what everyone does.

[-] match@pawb.social 46 points 3 weeks ago

in a way, no, because raw milk is already unsafe to drink by the time it's packaged

[-] icmpecho@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago

+1 for this: I have very personal experience with an E.Coli outbreak in a small town in southern Utah in 2017. Although the infections did not come from raw milk directly, the infections were traced to the area where the milk was packaged - and albeit anecdotally, there were several related deaths over the years that I was aware of, that were never reported due to the...uh...unique religious background of the place.

so yeah, I mean...don't let your children play in manure but also...don't drink milk that you sanitize less than you sanitize your hands.

[-] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 3 weeks ago

So it doesn't turn into yogurt?

My fridge isn't full of raw milk or anything, but I think this goose is a better fit for the oven than guard duty.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 26 points 3 weeks ago

Not sure if you're joking but to make safe to eat yogurt, you'll need to first kill the bad ones by heat, then cool it and once it is barren, you should invite the cool guys in like Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus thermophilus, Lactobacillus acidophilus or Bifidobacterium lactis, they'll need to be kept cosy and warm, and that will give you yogurt.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's a bit like making alcohol—it's made through fermentation, but you want it to be very controlled.

Normally you'd want to sterilize the starting mix first to kill any undesired molds and bacteria, add the fermenting agent that you want (lactic acid producing bacteria in this case) and age it in a sealed container until ready.

If it starts with any contaminants or if any are introduced during fermentation, it'd spoil the batch and make you very sick if ingested.

[-] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 3 weeks ago

regular milk also needs to be refrigerated tho

[-] Haarukkateroitin@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 weeks ago

If your objective is to get sick then it needs to kept room in temperature.

[-] naticus@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

So is having it raw in the first place.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 15 points 3 weeks ago

The only acceptable use for raw milk is cheese. Give me a raw milk camembert any day.

[-] urda@lebowski.social 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

OP definitely has some brain worms. RFK is that you?

[-] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago
[-] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

Do you guys really drink milk? I don't think I've had a glass of milk since I was like 14.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

My family used to drink milk for dinner. We probably went through ten liters of milk in a week. The top third of the fridge was always reserved for milk.

When i moved out i continued doing this for a while or eating cornflakes in milk, but eventually stopped because my adult body is not that fond of digesting milk. I eat crazy amounts of cheese though, but the well cured one that are low on lactose.

[-] rosco385@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

I have 4 kids between 16 and 6. I buy 6x 3L bottles of milk at a time and it barely lasts a week.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I will have milk with things like cookies or chocolate cake. And milk is mandatory for Oreos.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago

I hate dipping cookies in milk. It doesn't coat the cookie it just makes it sloppy. It might as well be water.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 3 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's used in a lot of ways that isn't "drinking a glass of milk". I suspect most milk is poured over cereal. It's also used a lot in cooking, but insisting on raw milk to bake with seems especially weird.

[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

Normally in tea and stuff, and with cereal

[-] Avorn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

It's a national drink in the Netherlands

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[-] erotador 8 points 3 weeks ago

if you want cold milk just add ice

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, officer, this one right here.

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[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

other than a couple of weirdos, who is actually out there drinking raw milk?

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 2 weeks ago

Quite a few weirdos, really.

[-] Zess@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not trying to defend drinking raw milk but things do taste different at different temperatures.

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