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[-] LarryTheMatador@sh.itjust.works 135 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 47 points 1 year ago

Remember Champ biting specific members of the secret service?

Dogs know. Dogs always know.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why some rip kids' faces off, they all deserve it.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Also why they shit on grass. They know.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

!fucklawns is leaking (not that there's anything wrong with that).

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Shh, stop being rational, doggos are le magical social creatures

[-] sheilzy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

That was actually Major, their younger dog at the time. Champ was their elderly dog who died a couple years ago. They since got a younger pup, Commander, and he too, has been biting staffers, but I don't know if they revealed which agencies the victims work for. Maybe Commander is copying what his elder brother does, but iirc Major doesn't live in the White House too often nowadays. He might just have the same intuition.

[-] SnowdropDelusion@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

In case anyone, like me, wants a source for Pence refusing to get in the car with the Secret Service. It’s from the book “I Alone Can Fix It.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/26/pence-car-raskin-comments/

The “terrified” part is speculation, but potentially true.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Sounds to me like Pence was tipped off.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

I wonder if they would have used 'the VP has been kidnapped by Antifa!' as justification for the insurrection act.

[-] QHC@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

They were chanting "hang Pence" and literally, physically building a gallows. The intentions were quite clear.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

Do we have any proof that the messages were deleted on the instruction of the White House? I've always thought they arranged the mass-deletion on their own - but it was a very busy time and I might well have missed the bit about them being ordered to delete them.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Well it helped Trump, was against policy, and they answered to him.

[-] athos77@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

All true. However, there's a difference between being told/ordered to do a thing, and thinking (on your own), "Hey if I do this thing it'll cover my ass and help my side". OP is claiming they were told to do it - and that may be true, but I'd like some proof toward that.

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's more likely? That they all independently had the same idea to commit the same crime at the same time, or that their ringleader told them to do it, so they did it?

[-] TechnoBabble@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

If they used SMS those records are still around.

Or did they use something else?

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

The proof is they wouldn't have done it if they had not been told.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 56 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't background checks for Top Secret clearances that involve employees in closer contact with important government officials screen out those with links to radical ideologies?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Bold of you to assume the Trump administration would've been screening them out.

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a question on the SF-86

https://news.clearancejobs.com/2020/01/12/extremist-groups-and-your-clearance/

The vetting can be done as was done with the National Guard deployed to DC:

https://www.rand.org/blog/2021/02/what-the-capitol-siege-means-for-the-future-of-security.html

Even National Guard members deployed to serve as an extra layer of security at the inauguration were vetted by the FBI to ensure no infiltration by potential insider threats; 12 National Guard members were removed due to security concerns. One Army reservist with a current security clearance and access to a naval munitions depot in New Jersey was also arrested in connection with the assault on the Capitol.

[-] Tedesche@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Wow. So much for background checks.

They did the background checks - just not in the way most people expected.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

It feels like one of the flaws in the system is that, while we'd want the agents who surround the president to be vetted more than almost anyone else, it's the executive branch that's responsible and apparently the president can give the okay for someone who doesn't otherwise pass, as we saw happen for his kids. What's to stop a corrupt president from having corrupt USSS agents?

[-] blady_blah@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

Do you guys not remember how the SS "accidentally" deleted all the texts from SS agents on the day of Jan 6th? "Whoops! Our bad!" Heads should have rolled big time!

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

the Secret Service unironically is the reason the insurrectionists didn't reach the senators/reps

[-] roboticide@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Why are they getting credit? It was capital police who finally opened fire when the rioters got to the hallway with the congressional offices.

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

the Secret Service were the ones inside, who for example shot out into the hallway from the door of the senate when the MAGA traitors tried to storm the senate chambers

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[-] littlewonder@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The least cool eye patch wearer.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago

Dollar store Nick Fury: Nick Missouri

[-] Skiff@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nick Mildly-Annoyed.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I thought it was Nick Fury from the thumbnail

[-] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You don't think he looks "radical"?

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[-] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 23 points 1 year ago

Well, colour me surprised 9 ways to Sunday and fuck me sideways. You don't say that police attend to associate with right wing terrorists. /s

[-] Yewb@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Some of those at work forces are the same that burn crosses

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[-] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago

The degree of rot keeps getting more and more astounding. I say this as someone who is completely unsurprised. Contradiction? Yeah. Both are true at the same time.

[-] Poob@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Cops regularly reach out to far right groups for information

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Also, far right groups recruit cops and ex-military. The venn diagram of law enforcement to right-wing militia groups has a lot of overlap.

[-] Locuralacura@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

It's a circle.

[-] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Otherwise known as being undercover?

Edit. I think I confused the SS with the FBI

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/us/politics/oath-keepers-trial-january-6.html

[-] norbert@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nope, it says "unofficial" in the article.

This fuck was an Oath Keeper himself.

Yeah, I was thinking of the FBI

WASHINGTON — An F.B.I. informant who was embedded for months in the inner circle of Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers militia, is likely to testify as a defense witness at the seditious conspiracy trial of Mr. Rhodes in connection with the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

The informant, Greg McWhirter, served as the Oath Keepers’ vice president but was secretly reporting to the F.B.I. about the group’s activities in the weeks and months leading up to the Capitol attack, according to two people familiar with the matter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/08/us/politics/oath-keepers-trial-january-6.html

[-] TvanBuuren@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

Without reading I thought he was a poor man's Nick Fury cosplay....

[-] cloud@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 year ago

Government is not your friend

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