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[-] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 47 points 1 week ago

If you don’t know which path the electrons are taking on the silicon wafer, you’re a bad engineer.

[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago

in my quantum computer they take all the paths at once

[-] bjorney@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago

I've only ever heard this non-ironically from these types

[-] sus@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago

Hey, that's unfair! As long as you don't make silly beginner mistakes like using the standard library's string implementation, the standard library's regex implementation, the standard library's hash table implementation, or standard io, C++ is almost always faster than python!

[-] lurch@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

It crashes ten times faster πŸ˜…

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 week ago

Compiling does take its sweet time, tho

[-] iii@mander.xyz 29 points 1 week ago

Assembly gang unite against C-wannabees πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

[-] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Unless you're analyzing what microcode is doing with it, assembly is just hiding how things really work, too. Good engineers use early 1990s computers so that they can fully understand what's going on, and never have to trust anyone else to correctly do anything.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Real engineers run all their code on CPUs they designed in verilog/VHDL.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Real engineers use binary.

[-] bitcrafter@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

If by "real engineers" you mean the posers who do not work directly with the underlying analog waveforms that approximate digital logic, then I suppose you have a point.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 8 points 1 week ago

VHDL gang unite against the assembly-wannabees 🐝 🐝 🐝

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

If you're not programming on punch cards you're a filthy casual

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

I did an engineering degree at Cambridge in the 2000s and the computing module had us assemble some assembly for some ancient CPU by hand - looking up opcodes in a table in a book - and then type the opcodes into a microcontroller via a 10 digit keypad. No screen or anything. Insane.

If that isn't enough to put anyone off programming then I don't know what is...

[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago
[-] bigboismith@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

There is a point to be made that C is the foundation to all other languages, and thus being able to write C let's you better understand how other C based languages (which is basically all of them) work.

I personally believe that in a academic sense, C should be your first language. However in a non-professional hobby context start with whatever you feel like.

[-] baddison@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago

I mean the main and ultimate penultimate usecase for C it's impetus for existing is writing UNIX and why the man pages got the details for stuff like sys.h and w/e else with the system calls in it so wen the kernel is online one can put in the address of where uname is in the asm code instead of the whole pleb #include <uname.h>

People make it seem like a bunch of kids working at Bell Labs at a time when a sheet of blotter paper the size of a movie poster but made of LSD costed $40 omggggg

Like the reason why in 2025 the operating system called MacOS is still mostly objective-c code from 1985 and the reason why for the duration of your career you've had to type NSObject repeatedly, on a Macintosh is the truth about computer science is that for the most part people are stupid, lazy, lack any kind of imagination, original thinking, or anything that resembles passion for digital computers (ie let's use C for everything full well knowing anything without an AT&T copyright in the header is out of band)

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[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

I was never able to properly render a div in react before tasting my first segfault in c

[-] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago

There is a point to be made that C is the foundation to all other languages

No it isn't. Go for example. Or Lisp in some cases.

[-] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

To be fair, if you have an engineering degree that covered programming you probably learned C, ASM, and low level details about system architecture. But the definition of "engineer" seems a little looser when you're taking about IT compared to some other fields - SWE is the only "engineering" title you can get without a formal education, AFAIK.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 1 week ago

runs a business selling C training

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

As someone who has not written a line of code since basic was cutting edge, I hereby throw the entire weight of my expertise behind the supremacy of C

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Memories. I remember copying my first BASIC code from a magazine. All it did was display a solid color on the monitor when you pressed any key. Back then my only resources were magazines and the video rental/computer shop owner that loved answering all of my questions. I’m pretty sure he could’ve sold his ponytail to Exxon for a hefty sum, but he still smelled better than the internet does now. Lol

[-] OpticalMoose@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago

Lay off me! I'm still trying to learn 6502 assembly.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago
[-] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

I had a professor with legit old school experience and patents to his name teach my architecture class. for his first semester teaching decided f the book I'll write my own 8 bit computer on the white board with terrible handwriting.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I taught myself both NASM & C, on the one hand useful for understanding what's under the hood, but on the other.. the fuck is this guy talking about?

Do I write code better than a full time professional? Hell no, I think even some basic python stuff runs faster than my code. And I'm ok with that.

It's ok to not know how everything works. Better if you do, but c'mon.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The issue isn't that its not hiding them, but

  • the janky nature of the language that made sense on mainframes with limited memory, but no longer needed,
  • manual memory management, which is extremely troubling with multi-threaded applications (get ready for deallocation before another thread finishes its job)
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