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As this project appears to be fairly unknown in the fediverse still, I'd like to use this opportunity to advertise Flohmarkt. This Fediverse equivalent of Facebook Marketplace already has some instances up and running - see here: https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt/wiki/flohmarkt-instances

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[-] Temperche@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

A friend shared to me that the developers are always open for discussion on their IRC channel:

https://web.libera.chat/?nick=GithubGuest%3F#flohmarkt

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 days ago
[-] bishbosh@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago
[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

It is well known that only names which are in the devinely decreed English language are acceptable on the internet

[-] Sirence@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago
[-] axum 145 points 1 week ago

The name has already made this nonviable for the average person

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 week ago

We have to stop sending end users to software solutions for web admins. We don't send them yo "nginx" or "apache", after all.

Someone throw up a website using this software and give the site a sensible name, and then direct users to that website.

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[-] maniclucky@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

It's not that bad. It's just German for flea market. And English speakers shouldn't have an issue with at least "Markt". Not far from a cognate.

Definitely better names but I think the bigger hurdle is getting the critical mass to get something like marketplace to work in the fediverse even with the perfect name.

[-] FundMECFSResearch 42 points 1 week ago

Yep. It’s kind of annoying when people see everything through an “english” lense and assume anything that isn’t made to work for english speakers won’t work…

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[-] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Does it? If you set up an instance for your local community/city/whatever, and name it something that makes sense for your intended userbase, I think it would be fine.

It goes from "I sold my couch on FlohMarkt" to "I sold my couch on Local Ottawa Marketplace" for the 'normies' out there. They're not going to care about the underlying software so long as their couch gets sold.

Do recommend a DIY local advertising strategy if trying to get something like this running, though - posters at IRL flea markets, adverts in small community papers for antiques and collectibles, crossposts/links to postings on stuff like MaxSold/Kijiji/Craigslist/GumTree/FB Marketplace/[insert online marketplace operating in your area] by first adopters, that kind of thing.

Focus on the current primary use case of centralized marketplace services (buying shit from your neighbours), then introduce the "Oh yeah, we've also set it up so you can see postings on Local Toronto Marketplace, Local Kingston Marketplace, Marché Local de Montréal" etc. from there.

I really, really think talking to people in terms of specific instances over the overarching platform/protocol is a way around 'normie' confusion about the Fediverse when first trying it, then getting exposure to how it works in practice will help them understand the nitty gritty stuff better. Is this problematic in some cases, like with Lemmy? A little bit, yeah. For something like FlohMarkt? I think less so.

('normie' in quotes 'cause I'm not the biggest fan of the term, but it's a useful shorthand)

[-] a14o@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago

This! It's just the name of the software, not sure why everyone's getting so worked up about it.

I think it's a brilliant use case for federation, hope this sees some adoption!

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 65 points 1 week ago

God... remember how fucking simple craigslist was when it hit it's peak? The fact that Grandpa could take a shaky flip phone picture and post a thing you needed right around the corner, no fat or other frivolous horseshit...

Craigslist is still simple last I checked, but the user base left and now dominated by spam from retail and drop shippers masquerading as local people selling goods from their garage.

Nothing gold can stay

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[-] IncogCyberspaceUser@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago

Great idea. I just wonder how Flohmarkt is read by non-Germans. Anyone want to state their opinion, their initial experience seeing the word, on that?

[-] Kierunkowy74@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

Pole here.

A federated MediaMarkt. Or at least something with shopping, selling something. Definitely a German product. Should be a quality one, but I would name my instance (or a national one) differently, perhaps in a local language.

There is no point in making worldwide Flohmarkt instances (same for Mobilizon), so, the naming should be less a problem than you expect

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Great idea. I just wonder how Flohmarkt is read by non-Germans.

Those non-Germans using Huawei/Xiaomi phones or buying from Shein? I reckon they'd not bat an eyelid, especially for English-speakers when you explain it means "flea market". With Shein if anyone even bothers asking about the name, all they want to know is how to pronounce it ("she in", not "shine" or "sheen") and what it means ("it's complicated", "OK, never mind then").

[-] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 1 week ago

I think an English localization as 'Flowmarkt' or 'Flowmarket' might be more catchy in English-speaking countries, since the intended pronunciation for 'Flohmarkt' isn't clear at a first glance.

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