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Summary

Federal employees at multiple agencies were ordered to remove pronouns from email signatures by Friday, following executive orders signed by Donald Trump to eliminate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) programs.

Agencies including the CDC, Department of Transportation, and Department of Energy issued directives citing the new policy.

Some employees expressed frustration, with one CDC worker calling it unprecedented.

The Office of Personnel Management also instructed agencies to disable pronoun prompts in email systems, marking another step in Trump’s broader rollback of DEI initiatives.

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[-] Nougat@fedia.io 62 points 3 weeks ago

The time has come for all federal employees to cease using pronouns entirely in communications. Here is a list of English pronouns to stop using.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

Also pretty much any noun can be used as a form of neo pronoun, so to be safe all Federal employees should only use verbs.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago

First they came for the verbs, and I said nothing because verbing weirds language.

Next they arrival for the nouns, and I speech nothing because I no verbs.

[-] tiefling 5 points 3 weeks ago

All who?

Wait, fuck

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 50 points 3 weeks ago

I think everyone here knew Trump would be doing a lot of stupid evil shit during his second term, but is anyone else surprised at the sheer magnitude of stupidity coming from the white house these past ten days?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's a gish gallop of petty insecurity, coming out so fast and furious that it takes people off guard.

Two years from now, when Trump doesn't have any more low-hanging fruit to pick at, this will seem quaint. But by then, we're going to see the real damage these opening days inflicted on civil society. It won't be "lolz, haha, guess we'll be using a lot of proper nouns going forward" and a lot more "fuck, another airline accident that you can only learn about on Rednote and the forums of Pornhub, because every major journalist has been doing wall-to-wall coverage of the Trial of the Transgender Eleven caught providing underground abortion drugs to serially raped immigrant middle schoolers held in the prison camps of the hurricane blasted ruins of Miami."

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

'Gish gallop' is the perfect descriptor for this onslaught of every hour insanity we're going through.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Bannon called it flooding the zone with shit. Some keep on saying "flooding the zone" is a donvict strategy, but he got it from Bannon, most likely.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

Also: Karl Rove famously had his quote, which is basically the same thing - basically putting on a pedestal those that take bold actions and lie constantly in the process:

"That's not the way the world really works anymore," he continued. "We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors ... and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

Bannon saying to "flood the zone with shit" is far shorter, but basically the same thing.

[-] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Ah... I feel like in times past I would have read that hypothetical and laughed at how ridiculous it is.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck no. Project 2025 was about making the shitshow far more efficient this time around.

They had PLANS. They published them. Now that donvict is in there, they plan on getting as much rammed through as possible. It's doubtful stuff like this matters very much other than as ragebait for their stupid base. The REAL agenda is the kind of looting and pillaging Felon plans on carrying out with his purchase of donvict....

[-] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

there's one advantage to Project 2025 being published. It catalogs the stuff for this year to undo, once (if ever) republicans get booted.

[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

But it's not stupidity. I mean, I agree, it's all stupid (as in: there are more important issues), but they're not stupid. They planned all this. It's exactly what they wanted and it's definitely not 'stupid' - It's insidious and malicious and cruel, but not stupid. This sounds like a dumb, tiny thing to do, I mean, it's just about words in an e-mail signature, right? It's not that big a deal? But a lot of things they're doing are -in a vacuum- not that big a deal. However, if you add it all up, it's all part of the wider persecution entire groups of people are falling victim to. In this case it's just another way to silence a minority and their allies.

Plus, don't forget: they'll use anyone who doesn't comply with the 'stupid' little stuff as an excuse for punishments and retaliation and even worse legislation.

Not stupid. Not ignorant. Not dumb. Incredibly fucking evil. And we should treat it like that. Don't minimize any of it, however insignificant it may seem. Put in context this is another drop in what will become a fucking ocean of suffering.

Edit: grammar.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 46 points 3 weeks ago

You mean to tell me the US government doesn't have a system that controls employee signatures? Are they running Windows NT still????

-Luci (She/Her)

[-] flashpanda@lemmy.world 55 points 3 weeks ago

Federal employee here. We have to make our own email signatures. I have not been told to remove pronouns by an official channel, but I have already removed pronouns and switched to having Ms. infront of my name, cause it has the same effect and the administration is too stupid to know that.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You heard it here first, folks. Pronouns are out, prenouns are in.

Edit: although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

although this is not inclusive for our non-binary friends. Open to suggestions on that one.

I'm by no means an expert here, but I think that's what "Mx" is used for.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 weeks ago

That’s way too dangerous without a containment field.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

How does that convey the same effect?

What if you are non binary?

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Many nonbinary people use Mx. but that's a personal decision.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, no. No, no no. It's much worse than that.

Hell if they were still on NT we'd be safer.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there are still a few Novell Netware boxes out there.

[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] sfbing@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'll have you know that I am an official paper CNE.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Pronouns should be used at the discretion of the individual. They should be able to choose who receives them, how it’s relayed, and what the pronouns will be. They should be able to change them whenever they want.

Putting this into a database such as active directory isn’t simple when it has requirements that I’ve stated.

It’s sometimes easier to just let the individual maintain their own signature.

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[-] soEZ@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lol, we on Citrix cant even set a signature anymore cuz outlook is screwed up

[-] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

Actually it's not Outlooks fault for once.

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[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Anything to distract from the plane crash they caused and plans to indefinitely hold citizens and people who missed a court date in an expanded Cuban military black site the public never wanted built on the first place

[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is this so he can attack the dwarves?

[-] MSids@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe they'll finally pick something important to work on tomorrow. Probably not, but maybe. We still have other issues right? I heard a couple of planes fell out of the sky and eggs are $10 and the ice caps are gonna melt.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

Move from signature to from line lol

[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

The federal agency I work with does put them next to your name if you have them registered. Curious how long that lasts.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

The party of Freezed Peach! Can't you just smell the freedom?

Also, I'm sure it's THIS that will give us cheap groceries.

[-] Tin 15 points 3 weeks ago

Comply but include unicode: ♀ ♂ ⚧

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago
[-] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

This should be what people do.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Please use my full, christian, and satanic name when referring to me.

[-] BigLime@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

That'll bring down the cost of living fs

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

So much for ending emails with a simple “thank you” at the end. Damn offensive pronouns.

[-] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Imagine using "He" or "She" like a typical American...

I just use 他 (pronounced tā), gender neutral, unlike English lolol

One pronoun to rule them all!

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

他 is “he.” Iirc it was the only pronoun until the 20th century, but now there is 她 for “she” and 它 for “it.” They are all pronounced the same though, so your joke works when pronounced out loud.

Because western influence added culture wars 😭

他 (he/she), 它 (it), 祂 (for deities). Long ago, three pronouns existed togerther in Harmony. Then, everything changed when the Eight Nation Alliance attacked.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

We have gender neutral terms too. "They/them". English or no English, Trump would force you to pick one.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Fuck pronouns, I just use names.

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[-] CritFail@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

This is so they can build in an excuse to fire everyone in IT.

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