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submitted 2 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

Proton Mail, known for its privacy-first email services, faced backlash after CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party and its antitrust stance.

The company initially posted and deleted a statement supporting Yen’s comments, later claiming an “internal miscommunication” and reiterating its political neutrality.

Critics question Proton’s impartiality, particularly as it cooperates with Swiss authorities on legal data requests.

Privacy advocates warn that political alignments could undermine trust, especially for Proton’s users—journalists and activists wary of government surveillance under administrations like Trump’s.

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[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 254 points 2 days ago

Just when I'm done migrating all my email shit to Proton, the CEO turns out to be a nazi. A classic.

[-] wax@feddit.nu 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Same. Considered getting a domain for my email, but ended up just switching directly to the protonmail domain. Regretting that now.

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 days ago

Getting your own domain is the best thing you can do, regardless of provider - it means they can't lock you in anymore.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Only way to make sure your email isn’t run by a Nazi is to run it yourself.

Unless you’re a Nazi in which case FUCK OFF

[-] eclipse@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

Even for the technically literate, running a mail server is an ongoing nightmare. If you think it's easy, you're not doing it right.

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More theater do to this today:

[-] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago

They literally do this on a schedule every year, this isn't any different than what they did last year, or the year before that, when there wasn't any of this conflict.

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[-] TsarVul@lemmy.world 124 points 2 days ago

I migrated literally everything from Gmail around 2021. Gotta tell ya, I feel just about dumb as shit right now. I kind of understand people with those "I bought this before he sieg heiled" bumper stickers on their Teslas.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

I was planning to transition everything to proton this month. Now I don't know what to do.

[-] chaoticnumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 day ago

Tuta for mail, bitwarden for passwords, mullvad for vpn. You lose port forwarding.

I migrated last week. I dont miss proton.

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[-] Kanzar@sh.itjust.works 147 points 2 days ago

"If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse, and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality."

-Desmond Tutu

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[-] SnotFlickerman 113 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Swiss company says "Nazi's aren't so bad."

The more things change the more they stay the same.

When they say they're "neutral" lets not forget what "neutral" meant during World War II. It meant making a fucking shitload of money at the expense of the rest of Europe.

Also, the geography of Switzerland is how they were able to convince Germany to not invade. A few US Nukes dropped from the sky make their geography a moot fucking point this time around.

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[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago

I cancelled my subscription and moved to tuta and mailbox.org in a couple of hours.

I don't consider this a nothingburger and I didn't like how it played out.

Dollar vote.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 86 points 2 days ago

The sort of Swiss neutrality that doesn't care whose teeth the gold is from.

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[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 88 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep, I moved to tuta the day Andy decided to out himself as a MAGA dipshit. The only way I’d go back is if he resigns or gets forced out. At the absolute minimum Andy Yen has shown extremely poor judgement in claiming Republicans are the party concerned with people’s digital rights. That tells me he fundamentally does not know what he’s talking about, and I do not trust Proton under his leadership anymore.

As a side note, If anyone’s looking for a VPN alternative, I highly recommend Mullvad.

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[-] Driveway4964@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

My stance on Proton is my stance on GrapheneOS: just because the creator is bad doesn't mean the software is bad. As long as the software is better compared to the alternatives then I seen no reason to stop using it.

Note: better can mean more privacy-friendly, cost-friendly, sustainable, nice to use, open, etc.

Oddly enough, I found the opposite to be true with companies like Nestle: the news of them killing children makes me dislike their chocolates.

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[-] LostAndSmelly@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

With this president flattery will get you everything. If you don't publicly praise him he will come for you and your users.

I am not saying that I love the endorsement, I do understand it.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 38 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I can see this for like Apple or Google, but…

Proton?

What beef could Trump and conservative influencers possibly have with it? And even if they did, it's not even an American company, it's Swiss.

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[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah I definitively know which service is not getting my donations or subs this year. I'll continue using their free service for a while until I can migrate most stuff. After all it's all their cost. If they want to be nazis, the least I'll be is a load to them.

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