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This is a gutting of the scientific research establishment which has created much of American prosperity since World War II, when the US used the promise of survival and stable funding to lure academics from Germany.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Well good luck to those 65% of veterans who voted for trump and were trying to buy a house.

The schadenfreude is delicious.

[-] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I keep hearing that word in the three body problem novels I'm listening to. Thanks for spelling it out so I can look it up 🤣

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

It's German. Means "Dark Humor".

[-] SnotFlickerman 150 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Further confusing the situation, it is uncertain that President Trump has the authority to unilaterally halt government funds allocated by Congress. Under Constitutional separation of powers, Congress passes spending bills, and the president executes the law as it is written.

Get fucked NYT this waffling fucking language is what enables this. It is certain he doesn't have the authority, and not being able to say so is allowing Trump to dictate the terms of how our fucking government works.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 day ago

who's gonna stop him?

this congress?

this scotus?

[-] SnotFlickerman 58 points 1 day ago

That's completely missing the point. The point is the press has been talking like this since 2015. They have given him every avenue to just pretend this is how things work. It has only gotten to this point due to this kind of waffling bullshit not willing to call a spade a spade.

It's not about the fact that no one is going to stop him, we haven't even had a press that's been willing to point out that he doesn't have these powers for almost ten fucking years now.

[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Good news: People are starting to become aware of the class war that has been going on for the past 50 years.

Bad news: We lost that class war.

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

Because guess who owns the press.

[-] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

C Montgomery Burns

/s

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago

You may be underestimating the amount of the US economy directly or indirectly impacted by a freeze like this. This is a big deal not just because it's usurping powers, but for simple economic reasons. Lots of rich people and Republican representatives that can't be too happy about this. They want MAGA nonsense to be distracting people so they can get big fat tax cuts, not actually be hurting their business interests.

It's the Faithful Execution Clause (Article 2, Section 3, Clause 5) and he's absolutely violating it.

What's the remedy though? Likely a Russian-ectomy from the GOP to actually stand up to him. Even if SCOTUS rules against Trump they have no method of enforcement. I wonder if SCOTUS should have any kind of power to impeach or even expell a President (high bar, maybe unanimous decision).

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Get fucked NYT this waffling fucking language is what enables this. It is certain he doesn’t have the authority, and not being able to say so is allowing Trump to dictate the terms of how our fucking government works.

Biden could have acted like this too. He would have been shot down by the courts, but there would be precedent so that trump couldn't.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 53 points 1 day ago

I wonder how bad it will get before a single Trump voter realizes what they've done.

[-] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago
[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

“Sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of my freedom”.

🎶Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose…🎶

[-] roofTophopper@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

They won't. They will literally blame everything else but him. He could storm into their house, kick their dog, shit on their head, and still post on Facebook how it wasn't him.

[-] sudo42@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

Fuckin’ Biden!

/s

[-] JonEFive@midwest.social 2 points 23 hours ago

"Yeah, but that event was taken out of context!" Or "Well, yeah, he did and said those things, but that's not what he meant!"

[-] dance_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

It's all about vibes. They don't care too much about what actually happens.

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago

Relax, they've already been convinced that all scientists do nowadays is autism vaccines and gender

[-] Todd_cross@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

My friend told me his dad called him and started complaining about Trump. He used to be a Democrat, but had progressively gotten more right-wing in the past decade or so. So looks like, 1 week.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

77,284,117 to go...

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Never. The stupidity and need to be a victim will never allow them to admit they're idiots who screwed America over.

[-] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ignorance is bliss, they don't care enough to pay attention.

[-] zlatiah@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

It was just HHS a few days ago... Then it came for NSF... Then this happened

I know the official memo claims this is "temporary" but there is literally no way this would end well. Heck there was at least one clinical trial terminated because of the "temporary" HHS pause, and this burden is on the entire country now

I envisioned for the worst when Trump was elected... and somehow this administration has managed to exceed some of my wildest expectations

[-] runner_g 3 points 13 hours ago

Thankfully a federal judge blocked this from taking affect for all open awards until Monday. This gives time for other lawsuits to be filled to block it completely, as this is entirely unconstitutional.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

I thought it would all be slower, so there is less risk of immediately crashing the economy... Apparently not.

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 11 points 1 day ago

Gotta crash the economy so the rich can swoop in and collect the last of the holdputs whonstill own homes instead of rent.

[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

He has absolute power unless someone steps up and says no. Regardless of its legality (hint: this is illegal), it will happen if Congress or SCOTUS does nothing to stop it.

[-] errer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Lots of my academic friends are real worried, particularly those who are paid entirely with grants…

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

It's a fast timetable too. This isn't a "continue on and we'll figure things out", it could be "don't come to work tomorrow and good luck with rent".

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Does it actually stop disbursement of funds, or just new grants? I am confused.

[-] zlatiah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are a few active discussions on Reddit/Bluesky... I think the short answer is none of us are really sure. However, I read comments saying that language from the memo seems to suggest that they would stop disbursement of funds, which would be the absolute worst case scenario (since that would straight up terminate a lot of ppl's jobs)

If there's any lawyer here who can parse/interpret the original memo I'd appreciate some insights...

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Just a temper tantrum.

Can't even deliver on the promise of a strongman with this whiny baby shit.

[-] knightmare1147@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

As much as I want to write him off like I have for years, now the despot has actionable power and is actively hurting people.

[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

Just a temper tantrum that will hurt a lot of people.

[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
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