the good thing is that they just created a mastodon account
https://mastodon.social/@distrowatch
embrace the fediverse !ππ
Can I follow them from my programming.dev account?
No, I don't think Lemmy supports following users.
It was pretty upsetting that they didn't link to it in their announcement that they joined mastodon. Thanks for linking it here
I wish the Fediverse didn't ban users for legal political opinions.
"The fediverse" doesn't ban anyone for anything, it's not a monolith. Anyone can start their own server if they differ from existing ones. And if an instance is defederated by everyone too...
Is that an XKCD, what number is it?
Yeah, a pretty classic one, https://xkcd.com/1357/
You must link to the source legally and morally BTW. Always do this in the future, without asking.
Also you should copy the transcription for blind folks.
One might get banned for opinions that are incompatible with certain instances. You can always open your own, and build a community of similar minded individuals. But never expect everyone to federate with you.
That's still a problem. It really doesn't make the community look good. I think that also creates an issue similar to Big Tech networks where you don't get opinions from all sides of arguments (unless you have many accounts on many instances).
On the contrary, it makes the community look good not to federate with everyone. There are instances that are so toxic that I'm really happy not to have them around. Let the gun-lovers, fascists, the Russian mouthpieces, the spammers, etc. have their place, but don't offer them the platfor they don't deserve.
Your broad claim and what is actually being banned on instances makes it seem you want to include questionable if not destructive opinions.
Can you be more concrete? What are you missing, and where?
What banned content that couldn't find a home on another instance do you want to see?
Do you think opinions should be shareable in any form, or only in respectful form?
Do you think opinions should be shareable in any form, or respectful?
It's probably the usual case of "respect my opinion while I don't respect yours."
when one side is "Queer people should be hunted down and killed" or "women are property" they don't get a seat at the table of people who aren't complete monsters.
You can have any political opinion you want, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to give it any validity or even listen to it.
Especially if that political opinion is just hate for racial, sexual, and gender minorities or women at large. You can make your own instance of hate, and many have, but the rest of us don't have to join and get exposed to disrespect and death threats.
That's the issue. You liberals consider everything else hate. Also having to create another instance is segregation which is considered terrible by all of you.
Not a liberal, but people on the left generally consider hate, hate.
"is segregation which is considered terrible by all of you" you're just going to tell on yourself that you think segregation is a-ok?
Ah, it's always fun how easy it is to trigger conservatives, or at this point regressives or blatant fascists as you conserve nothing.
Again, if your opinion is "brown people are rapists and murderers", "kill the gays", or "Trans people shouldn't be allowed" you don't get to complain when we push back by telling you what kind of a monster you are for your actions, and not for who you are as a person.
You're the people obsessed with identity politics. That's all you have as fake-tan Hitler hasn't even attempted to do anything to make your lives better. He's not even pretending to do more than the start of racial cleansing and trampling on the few rights trans people gained over the last 5 to 10 years while funneling even more money into billionaire pockets.
Also, the "so much for the tolerant" left shtick is so tired. Reactionaries always end up there when they have nothing else because they think it's some sort of "gotcha". It isn't. It just shows how simple you world-view is. You don't understand nuance or context. You probably think Star Trek is only "woke" today when it's always been progressive for it's time.
There is a paradox of tolerance. And that is "the tolerant must be intolerant of the intolerant. Because otherwise, the intolerant win." Us not willing to tolerate disrespect or hate is not hypocritical...
Curious, what legal political opinions are you referring to?
Are there any server admins who aren't blocking Threads? Everyone should be.
@neme what the heck did I just read. Doesn't Facebook depend on linux servers? This zuck guy is just banning shit for the sake of it at this point
And Meta / Facebook is one of the top supporters for Linux Foundation at Platinum level (Microsoft too): https://www.linuxfoundation.org/about/members
Linux community should keep its distance from the Linux Foundation
@thingsiplay so they are investing/donating to malware? Is that what they think they're doing? It would be funny if that was the case, ngl
I can't wait to read the next version of the "First they came for..." sermon and see where Linux users fall on it...
What an absurd timeline.
Edit:
DistroWatch says that the Facebook ban took effect on January 19.
Right. Just a coincidence though, I'm sure...
What, you think a founder who is riding the dick of a fascist coincidentally made a bunch of bad moves? /s
But why?
Facebook makes money off of surveillance and many Linux communities like to make that harder. So I'm thinking its about money and big brother.
We are all super cool hackers obviously
Their whole purpose is monopolization of advertising engagement to make money for shareholders. Collecting user data, building profiles, targeted ads, prioritizing rage bait and conspiracies and misinformation, hiding alternatives like open source software and distributed community supported software, are all in support of that goal.
If you understand linux it's only a small leap to understand selfhosting. If you understand selfhosting it's only a small jump to hosting your own Fediverse instances, thereby completely eliminating your dependency on the big social media giants.
Anecdote for support:
In only two days I went from "I can use BASH and the GNU Coreutils for most of my daily tasks on my PC" to "I understand networking well enough, own a domain with several webapps, and have successfully gained independence from the tech giants regarding cloud storage."
In two days, with only the purchase of a domain for about $10US, I've saved myself $15/mo from spotify, and over $40 from all the video streaming apps by rolling out Jellyfin, as well as Regained ownership of my photos from Google by downloading everything as a zip and rehosting it on my selfhosted immich instance.
This stuff is genuinely not difficult, it's tedious for sure, and for an OSS noob it will take some time, certainly more than it took me.
Very late but curious. How difficult is it for someone who genuinely never has used Linux before, to go those leaps? Someone who's not braindead Γ la "grandma doesn't know what the red X button is or does", but just a basic user "I've heard of a terminal and you can do commands with it but idk, I use maps and files...".
Like is there a self hosting guide for idiots?
It can be a lot, I'm a year in and still feel like a noob. I've only just now moved from being behind a cloudflare tunnel to being behind a proper reverse-proxy. That doesn't mean anything to you yet, it will!
There's plenty of guides to get started. Louis Rossman did a 12hr guide on selfhosting your entire life (I still haven't watched the whole thing).
I started here with this guide: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IuRWqzfX1ik It's short, sweet, easy to digest.
If you wanna start super easy.
This works around CGNAT, and bypasses the need for port forwarding BUT it keeps you reliant on a corpo and keeps all your data moving through their servers, which means low upload limits and your traffic could (see: will) be monitored.
Anything your exposing to the internet should be considered disposable until you know enough to keep a server online safely. Keep backups, offsite. If you have 1 backup, you have no backups. If you only have onsite backups, you have no backups.
Most servers you're gonna want to run will come with relatively detailed documentation for rolling things out, but when it comes to security you'll be on your own. This is because the optimal security configuration for your needs depends on your threat model. Until learning proper network security, I'd recommend paying for a VPS to host your servers on and connecting via proxmox or a similar tool, lest you risk leaving gaping security holes in your home network.
Have fun, happy selfhosting, feel free to DM me if you need assistance, I'm not on lemmy often anymore but my inbox goes to my RSS aggregator so I'll see it.
oh, and PS. Don't selfhost your email, it's not worth the hassle.
cloudflare tunnel
Isn't cloudflare American? is there no way to avoid that?
It's a bit more complicated but the video I linked suggests using DuckDNS and a Wireguard VPN. It certainly works though in my experience it can be a bit of a pain because of CGNAT. If you have a reliable static or long-lived IP lease on IPv6 though it's much less clumsy.
Oh shit. I hope we on Lemmy can still have our little thing. It would be kinda lonely without Americans...
I assume this must be some new Ai tech they use in the back. And it doesn't work well. I can't think of any reason why Facebook would do this intentionally.
Copenhagen-hosted DistroWatch says it has tried to appeal against the Community Standards-triggered ban. However, they say that a Facebook representative said that Linux topics would remain on the cybersecurity filter.
Nope, this one isn't ignorance, it's actual malice. They fully intended to start blocking Linux topics.
When you take this and pair it with what Larry Ellison just recently said:
AI will ensure "citizens will be on their best behavior"
There tends to be a pattern forming that I really don't want to draw because I like tinfoil on my head.
I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him I hate him
Fucking lawnmower piece of shit. Do not fall into the trap of anthropomorphizing Larry Ellison.
Ok
The world still goes around
Server admins who agree to this are going to get some kinda white hat exemption but otherwise itβs black hats for all. Gotta have a simple reason to call you a threat to an idiot population.
"Linux is probably insecure. Also GPL sounds like communism." ...did I just get mysteriously whisked back to 1998? Because that was the last time I heard this shit.
Listen, if you want free software, you're an enemy of capitalism, traitor.
/s goddamnit, I hate that I have to be explicit about it. Learn to read internet posts.
you are an enemy of capitalists though, at least thats how those pigs see it. Your /s was because people thought you were criticising free software and the GPL? Huh, guess there's more than one way to slice the dough...
Yes, I am an enemy of capitalism. I have to throw in the /s to not get downvoted or banned. People don't know when sarcasm appears in print.
Their servers must run on air
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